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3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 10:48 am
by stip
Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 10:59 am
by stip
Supersonic is exactly the type of song I wish Pearl Jam would never release (at least not on an album), despite a cool bridge and game performances.
Dissident is a classic that I lost interested in, though I've started to revisit and reappreciate a bit, especially its sentiment, which presages so many ideas that would be explored over the next 5 or so albums.
However, Jeremy is one of the three songs I am hoping wins this thing. It was once in the Dissident camp for me, but in the last decade or so it has totally regained its power. I may like it more now than I ever did before. Just a stone cold masterpiece.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 4:05 pm
by Strat
hee hee hee heee hee hee heee ohhhhhhh woaaaa ohhh woooaaaaaaaa he he he heheee heee
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 4:08 pm
by Anders
Dissident is cool, but it’s Jeremy.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 4:59 pm
by ABNorman
None of these have ever been matched against each other.
Jeremy has an average of 49 votes per tournament.
Dissident has an average of 31 votes per tournament.
Supersonic has an average of 13 votes per tournament.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 4:59 pm
by ABNorman
Dissident has always been one of my least favourite early Pearl Jam songs. Supersonic is pretty awful. Easy vote for Jeremy.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:08 pm
by stip
how far has jeremy advanced?
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:11 pm
by ABNorman
stip wrote:how far has jeremy advanced?
It's made a single Top 32, last year.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:31 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:Dissident is cool, but it’s Jeremy.
In years past, I would agree. Jeremy is still in elite company and I fucking love it so much.
But Dissident has had a resurgence for me over the last couple of years. Once upon a time it was my favorite song on Vs. While that's not the case anymore, I have rediscovered how much I love it. The song feels fresh and urgent to me in a way Jeremy doesn't.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 5:57 pm
by Jaeti
ABNorman wrote:stip wrote:how far has jeremy advanced?
It's made a single Top 32, last year.
That's all? Insanity.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 6:47 pm
by tragabigzanda
Jeremy, Oceans, and Release are the only three Ten songs that completely transcend the limitations of their production. What a monster.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 7:39 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:Jeremy, Oceans, and Release are the only three Ten songs that completely transcend the limitations of their production. What a monster.
what do you think of the RVM remixes of Black and Alive?
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 7:40 pm
by tragabigzanda
stip wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Jeremy, Oceans, and Release are the only three Ten songs that completely transcend the limitations of their production. What a monster.
what do you think of the RVM remixes of Black and Alive?
It's fine. Feels forced. I prefer the original.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 10:14 pm
by stip
I think I prefer Black. The Alive version is, from my view, the definitive version. The original Jeremy is the superior Jeremy, though
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 10:41 pm
by digster
tragabigzanda wrote:Jeremy, Oceans, and Release are the only three Ten songs that completely transcend the limitations of their production. What a monster.
These are now my three favorites from the album, as well, which is a big change from when I first heard it a long time ago; I definitely gravitated towards Alive and Why Go. Ten might be the record of theirs where there's the most difference between favorites when I first heard it and favorites now.
But Jeremy's one of my favorite songs, and despite it's popularity doesn't feel tied to a previous era in the way some of the other Ten-era stuff does.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 10:47 pm
by evenslow
Dissident, easily.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 10:49 pm
by epilogue
evenslow wrote:Dissident, easily.

Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Wed February 16, 2022 11:27 pm
by LetMeSleep
Jeremy, raised arms.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 5:05 am
by Kevin Davis
I really love "Dissident." Underneath the admittedly middle-of-the-road arrangement, I find it's a really lovely song with some quirky things happening musically. I'd love to hear an instrumental version someday, or hear them tackle it in a Benaroya-style arrangement.
"Jeremy" is great and I even like "Supersonic" just fine, but "Dissident" takes this one for me.
Re: 3. Jeremy vs. Dissident vs. Supersonic
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 5:09 am
by Brett
"Jeremy" is a monster of a song, still an all-timer after all these years. "Dissident" has grown from a midcarder to one of the real heavy-hitters on Vs, and today, I think that's what I'm feeling more. "Supersonic" can go ahead and take a hike.