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deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 1:07 pm
by stip
question for the music historians - has there been an era/period/scene of music that has suffered as many high profile untimely deaths as grunge?
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 1:12 pm
by Jorge
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
It also seems that grunge was the last gasp of rock and its hedonistic lifestyle. A truly dead worldview.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:07 pm
by tree_
Definitely not dead, just not mainstream anymore. It's insane that it was so popular to begin with.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:14 pm
by Higgs
80s post Punk and new romantic sounds are everywhere these days. Grunge revivalists will be kicking off in another 7 or 8 years, I'm sure.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:24 pm
by BurtReynolds
Higgs wrote:80s post Punk and new romantic sounds are everywhere these days. Grunge revivalists will be kicking off in another 7 or 8 years, I'm sure.
Digging up a corpse and making it dance around.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:25 pm
by tree_
sounds like hedonism to me
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:41 pm
by Higgs
BurtReynolds wrote:Higgs wrote:80s post Punk and new romantic sounds are everywhere these days. Grunge revivalists will be kicking off in another 7 or 8 years, I'm sure.
Digging up a corpse and making it dance around.
Almost all popular music is this, no?
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:44 pm
by warehouse
hip hop
it's probably b/c kurt cobain killed himself when i was a kid, but i almost always associate people from the 'grunge scene' with heroin. it just seems to always come up whenever people talk about the scene.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:48 pm
by rick malone
Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, The Big Bopper plane crash. The planes were better thirty years in the future so the singers sought new methods of self destruction.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:50 pm
by Jorge
rick malone wrote:Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, The Big Bopper plane crash. The planes were better thirty years in the future so the singers sought new methods of self destruction.
I believe this is commonly referred to as The Day an Airplane Carrying Multiple Musicians Crashed, Causing Their Untimely Deaths
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:52 pm
by tree_
Jorge, it's "The Day the Music Died"
close, though
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:53 pm
by Jorge
What?
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:53 pm
by JuanHamm
oof, first the Moe/Otto mixup and now this...
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 2:58 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:What?
Listen closely to the lyrics in the song American Pie and you will be slapping yourself on the face
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 3:13 pm
by stip
warehouse wrote:hip hop
it's probably b/c kurt cobain killed himself when i was a kid, but i almost always associate people from the 'grunge scene' with heroin. it just seems to always come up whenever people talk about the scene.
I guess that's part I am kind of asking about. Is hip hop equivalent to grunge? It seems like hip hop should be differentiated, right? Hip Hope would be compared to Rock, and there would be genres within it.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 3:21 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, im not sure if there was another movement were its high profile artists died kinda for the same reasons (we dont know Mark“s yet tough)
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 3:22 pm
by tree_
it's just rock, dudes... hendrix, morrison, joplin, cobain, etc... all the same
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 3:29 pm
by warehouse
stip wrote:warehouse wrote:hip hop
it's probably b/c kurt cobain killed himself when i was a kid, but i almost always associate people from the 'grunge scene' with heroin. it just seems to always come up whenever people talk about the scene.
I guess that's part I am kind of asking about. Is hip hop equivalent to grunge? It seems like hip hop should be differentiated, right? Hip Hope would be compared to Rock, and there would be genres within it.
'grunge' is kinda unique b/c its associated so heavily with a city, but if you are looking for a similar type thing maybe "gangsta rap" late 90s early 00s. biggie and pac obviously. DMX and ODB both OD'd. Big L, Nate Dog were murdered. this is probably the closest thing I can think of outside of the late 60s early 70s when hendrix, morrison, joplin, etc died.
Re: deaths of an era
Posted: Wed February 23, 2022 3:31 pm
by warehouse
early punk maybe? how far apart did darby crash and sid vicious die?