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130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:08 am
by stip
Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:14 am
by stip


This is an easy vote for DTE. Hail Hail is a really insightful set of lyrics and a satisfying garage/grunge rock performance, but despite its rawness it's always hit me in the head more than the heart. And Eddie sounds like he's holding his noise his whole performance.

DTE is a singular moment. And that video. And that MSG performance when the floor was shaking. Too many memories. DTE is a song I've definitely been taking for granted, and feels more prescient than ever

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:19 am
by tragabigzanda
Hail hail no question.

It’s funny that stip perceived hail hail as hitting him in the head, with DTE hitting him in the heart. It’s the exact opposite for me. That Hail Hail chord progression is a juggernaut and a jigsaw puzzle all in one, and Ed does a miraculous job of making it feel breezy.

As much as I enjoy DTE, I’ve always felt — since the first time I heard it — that it was a very brainy song. You can kind of hear them working to turn it into a rave up, and significant parts of it — the distorted vocal, the hallelujah, even the Macfarlane imagery — all coalesce towards something that was articulated to be the perfect combination of edgy and commercially viable.

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:23 am
by stip
I think DTE is a fairly cerebral song as well. But there is a primal intensity to it that is always what I'm looking for. Breezy is a good adjective for Hail Haiil, and I think that's one of the things that keeps it parked firmly in the lower 4 star range for me. It has always felt like it lacked the all encompassing fullness of so many of the great rockers before it.

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:24 am
by tragabigzanda
I think that, antithetical to most of their music, the fullness is in the guitars, and Ed is the sugar that makes it go down easy

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:26 am
by Strat
Man, both are absolute classic stone gossard guitar pieces. DTE just dances around the fret board with these riffs totally bouncing off each other.

There are few things i love more than PJ cutting into DTE (especially anything pre 2006). Honestly earth shaking.

Hail Hail is.....well i can't say enough about it. Ed is very subtle on this one and the lyrics are absolutely top notch.

Im at a loss here!

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:27 am
by stip
Perhaps this will help


Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:28 am
by stip
fucking pearl jam

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:28 am
by stip


this, then.

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:29 am
by tragabigzanda
I’d think that sharing a post-2005 version of an older song would work in the other song’s favor

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:32 am
by stip
well I tried to share MSG but it didn't work.

I think 2006 is maybe one of their top 3 tours, though. After 2006, maybe.

But here you go:


Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:33 am
by tragabigzanda
It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:35 am
by stip
you need to use a special filter

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:35 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:54 am
by Jaeti
No wrong answer here, but, Hail Hail.

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:54 am
by PHATJ
It’s evolution, baby

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:57 am
by wease
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman
He does? I never noticed that. Where at?

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 1:59 am
by wease
I am woman enough to be your man.

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 2:03 am
by Strat
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman
He does? I never noticed that. Where at?
Coming out of the bridge. Watch his hands and listen then watch his face. He misses all the chords.

Re: 130. Hail Hail vs. Do The Evolution

Posted: Mon March 07, 2022 2:06 am
by wease
Strat wrote:
wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:It’s a better argument, but does it have Stone in head-to-toe orange?!
Yea but stone absolutely fucks hail hail up significantly on letterman
He does? I never noticed that. Where at?
Coming out of the bridge. Watch his hands and listen then watch his face. He misses all the chords.
I will do that.