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Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 12:26 am
by simple schoolboy
I was looking into this when I found out that the FBI has effectively shut it down, ostensibly to combat child pornography. I'm sure this has nothing to do with widespread NSA surveillance and a desire to deter potential leakers.
http://boingboing.net/2013/08/04/anonym ... -down.html
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 12:33 am
by malice
nm - there's a link now. kthx
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 12:38 am
by Jorge
Oh shit.
I have the Tor browser and proxy installed on my computer. What do
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 12:46 am
by BurtReynolds
My bitcoins!
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 12:52 am
by malice
I read the book the article's author wrote called The Rapture of the Nerds
it was fairly meh
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 1:08 am
by simple schoolboy
theplatypus wrote:Oh shit.
I have the Tor browser and proxy installed on my computer. What do
I'm not the one to ask. I'm such a late adopter that the service doesn't exist anymore when I attempt to install it. I have no idea if its also compromised, but I just installed Jap/JonDo. The free service is incredibly slow, so get ready to shell out for a functional bandwidth.
Would a mainstream server host suffer similar criminal penalties for inadvertently hosting a kiddie porn website? Unless they received and ignored previous cease and desist orders, I'm guessing not and that they will use the intent to provide anonymity as an indication of criminal behavior at trial.
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 1:10 am
by Jorge
I only used it once, but all I did was scroll down the list of "available services" in horror, careful not to click anything
Re: Tor
Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 3:54 pm
by stip
so what was TOR?
Re: Tor
Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 3:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
stip wrote:so what was TOR?
I don't think us old guys need or want to know
Re: Tor
Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 5:16 pm
by elliseamos
some repeat info from the story in the OP, but the plot has thickened to include our beloved FBI.
techdirt.com wrote:
Feds Accused Of Distributing Malware That De-Anonymizes Tor Users
from the left-hand,-meet-the-anonymous-right-hand dept
It's somewhat well known that the popular Tor anonymous browsing system gets a significant amount of funding from the US government. In the past, the suggestion had always been that the State Department was a major supporter because of its belief that Tor would help dissidents in other countries communicate better via anonymous systems. However, now there's a lot of buzz because it appears that a bit of malware that was discovered this weekend targeting Tor users, may have come directly from the FBI itself. The implication isn't against the Tor project at all, but rather it appears that whoever pushed out this malware did so by using a vulnerability targreting people using the Tor Browser Bundle -- a Firefox bundle that builds in Tor -- browsing a variety of hidden sites (available only to Tor users) hosted by the somewhat infamous Freedom Hosting. Freedom Hosting's boss, Eric Eoin Marques was arrested in Ireland last week as the US is trying to extradite him. But, what was more interesting was what some people discovered on all Freedom Hosting pages:
- Shortly after Marques' arrest last week, all of the hidden service sites hosted by Freedom Hosting began displaying a “Down for Maintenance” message. That included websites that had nothing to do with child pornography, such as the secure email provider TorMail.
Some visitors looking at the source code of the maintenance page realized that it included a hidden iframe tag that loaded a mysterious clump of Javascript code from a Verizon Business internet address located in eastern Virginia.
By midday Sunday, the code was being circulated and dissected all over the net. Mozilla confirmed the code exploits a critical memory management vulnerability in Firefox that was publicly reported on June 25, and is fixed in the latest version of the browser.
Though many older revisions of Firefox are vulnerable to that bug, the malware only targets Firefox 17 ESR, the version of Firefox that forms the basis of the Tor Browser Bundle – the easiest, most user-friendly package for using the Tor anonymity network.
So why do people think the feds are involved? The bit of malware scoops up various identifying information -- MAC address and Windows hostname -- and then sends it to a server in Virginia to find the real IP address of the computer in question. The Virginia server is controlled by the infamous contractor SAIC, who works with numerous government agencies.
It's no secret that law enforcement has wanted to identify folks who are trying to be anonymous. And, as discussed just last week, the FBI has been using malware at an increasing rate. So it wouldn't be a huge surprise to find out that little tricky bit of malware was designed to provide more info on Tor users who might be up to nefarious activity (or, you know, they might just want to surf anonymously). I imagine that this is not the end of this particular story...
Re: Tor
Posted: Wed August 07, 2013 12:20 pm
by stip
E.H. Ruddock wrote:stip wrote:so what was TOR?
I don't think us old guys need or want to know
I need to know so I can namedrop it and seem younger than I am
Re: Tor
Posted: Fri October 04, 2013 1:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Seems like the right place to post this:
How FBI caught Ross Ulbricht, alleged creator of criminal marketplace Silk Road
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/world/ame ... ?hpt=hp_c2