Red Mosquito

B wrote:Fuckin' lazy disney writing ruins everything.

B wrote:Fuckin' girls ruin everything.

B wrote:Fuckin' girls ruin everything.

bada wrote:This trailer is a trap. Make something clearly horrible and call anyone that says anything misogynist. Easier to ignore it which is what I suspect the general audience is going to do.

Jorge wrote:Also

B wrote:Fuckin' girls ruin everything.

Wow you are CONDITIONED my guy

Jorge wrote:I’m convinced that The Marvels will be an honest to god bomb, even if it's the sequel to a movie that made over a billion dollars. To the point that they may do something like pivot to a simultaneous Disney+ release to bury the headlines.

- It's a movie where two of its three main characters were introduced in Disney+ shows, one of them as a tertiary character. Barrier to entry: high.
- It won't be buoyed by the anticipation generated by the films released before and after it, like Captain Marvel was by coming out in between Infinity War and Endgame.
- It's a sequel to a movie that, despite being very commercially successful, was fairly divisive in terms of audience reaction.
- It's being released in the pre-Christmas death slot.
- Bad press and negative word of mouth from people hating Ant-Man 3.
- Unlike Guardians 3 (which is increasingly feeling like the last chopper out of Saigon) this isn't being hyped as the last chapter to a saga.

I also believe that because it stars three women (two of which are women of color) and since it will likely espouse some ham-handed liberal politics, it will be victim of review bombing by the absolute biggest losers on Earth, but that will be canceled out by the "it sounds like we're upsetting the RIGHT PEOPLE!" #Resist crowd who will buy multiple tickets because they believe stanning a superhero movie will advance us towards a fairer world.

It used to be insane to bet against Marvel but I honestly believe this will underperform significantly.

B wrote:

bada wrote:This trailer is a trap. Make something clearly horrible and call anyone that says anything misogynist. Easier to ignore it which is what I suspect the general audience is going to do.

VG's assessment was vague, which opened him up to my criticism. He came closer on attempt number two.

But I think you're wrong. Here are several critiques that have nothing to do with gender.

- The sitcomy, fish-out-of-water plot line is too juvenile.
- This has the same crazy, comic booky moments as the Ant-Man trailer, which got us excited for a pretty ho-hum movie.
- This movie will either dumb down the serious content of Secret Wars or try to mute the goofiness of Ms. Marvel, and will probably fall flat by embracing neither.

Jorge wrote:Still thinking about this movie's box office chances. I still stand by my original assessment from a different thread, but I saw a lot of people excited about the trailer yesterday so I am slightly less sure than before

Jorge wrote:I’m convinced that The Marvels will be an honest to god bomb, even if it's the sequel to a movie that made over a billion dollars. To the point that they may do something like pivot to a simultaneous Disney+ release to bury the headlines.

- It's a movie where two of its three main characters were introduced in Disney+ shows, one of them as a tertiary character. Barrier to entry: high.
- It won't be buoyed by the anticipation generated by the films released before and after it, like Captain Marvel was by coming out in between Infinity War and Endgame.
- It's a sequel to a movie that, despite being very commercially successful, was fairly divisive in terms of audience reaction.
- It's being released in the pre-Christmas death slot.
- Bad press and negative word of mouth from people hating Ant-Man 3.
- Unlike Guardians 3 (which is increasingly feeling like the last chopper out of Saigon) this isn't being hyped as the last chapter to a saga.

I also believe that because it stars three women (two of which are women of color) and since it will likely espouse some ham-handed liberal politics, it will be victim of review bombing by the absolute biggest losers on Earth, but that will be canceled out by the "it sounds like we're upsetting the RIGHT PEOPLE!" #Resist crowd who will buy multiple tickets because they believe stanning a superhero movie will advance us towards a fairer world.

It used to be insane to bet against Marvel but I honestly believe this will underperform significantly.