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Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Mon June 10, 2024 9:03 pm
by Leatherhead
What song best represents the main themes of their respective albums? Here's my quick stab at it.
Ten: Porch
Vs: Animal
Vitalogy: Tremor Christ
No Code: Off He Goes
Yield: In Hiding
Binaural: Nothing As It Seems
Riot Act: All Or None
Pearl Jam: Life Wasted
Backspacer: The Fixer
Lightning Bolt: Sirens
Gigaton: Who Ever Said
Dark Matter: Wreckage
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Mon June 10, 2024 9:18 pm
by BootsToAsses
Ten - Release
Vs - Animal
Vitalogy - Corduroy
No Code - In My Tree/Present Tense
Yield - No Way/In Hiding
Binaural - Insignificance
Riot Act - I Am Mine
Avocado - World Wide Suicide
Backspacer - Unthought Known
Lightning Bolt - Lightning Bolt
Gigaton - Seven O'Clock
Dark Matter - Setting Sun
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Mon June 10, 2024 10:15 pm
by liebzz
Ten - Alive
Vs. - Rearviewmirror
Vitalogy - Corduroy
No Code - In My Tree
Yield - Do the Evolution
Binaural - Nothing As It Seems
Riot Act - Half Full
Pearl Jam - Life Wasted
Backspacer - Unthought Known
Lightning Bolt - Lightning Bolt
Gigaton - Seven O’Clock
Dark Matter - Setting Sun
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue June 11, 2024 12:49 am
by stip
What an interesting and important question. I want to give this some thought, but pretty much every Pearl Jam album hits its primary themes pretty hard in the final song.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue June 11, 2024 3:02 am
by Leatherhead
Maybe 2 songs from every album would be better.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue June 11, 2024 1:36 pm
by warehouse
Ten - Alive/release
Vs. - Rearviewmirror/animal
Vitalogy - Corduroy/immortality
No Code - In My Tree/present tense
Yield - Do the Evolution/in hiding
Binaural - Of the Girl/Parting Ways
Riot Act - I Am Mine/Half Full
Pearl Jam - Life Wasted/Inside Job
Backspacer - Just Breathe/Unthought Known
Lightning Bolt - Lightning Bolt/Future Days
Gigaton - DOTC/River Cross
Dark Matter - Scared of Fear/Stevie
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue July 16, 2024 3:20 pm
by lvc
There is no way on earth Alive is the representation of Ten unless the main theme of Ten is incest-inflicted complex trauma.
I would have to say:
Ten -- Garden
Vs. -- Leash
Vitalogy -- Not For You
No Code -- Off He Goes
Yield -- All Those Yesterdays
Binaural -- Grievance
Riot Act -- All or None
Pearl Jam -- Life Wasted
Backspacer -- Supersonic
Lightning Bolt -- Lightning Bolt
Gigaton -- don't care
Dark Matter -- Got To Give
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue July 16, 2024 4:06 pm
by McParadigm
BootsToAsses wrote:Ten - Release
Vs - Animal
Vitalogy - Corduroy
No Code - Present Tense
Yield - No Way/In Hiding Given to Fly
Binaural - Insignificance God’s Dice. Education also considered.
Riot Act - I Am Mine Love Boat Captain
Avocado - World Wide Suicide
Backspacer - Unthought Known
Lightning Bolt - Lightning Bolt (it’s the theme the band aimed for, anyways)
Gigaton - Seven O'Clock
Dark Matter - Setting Sun probably Upper Hand? Or React / Respond? even Stevie has a good case to be made. This one is thematically very consistent, so it’s hard to single out one mission statement because none of them ever really leave it
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue July 16, 2024 6:04 pm
by stip
there is a journey of sorts on most of the records so Im going to choose two for each that are in conversation with each other
Ten: Alive/Release
Vs: Rearviewmirror/Release (i would like to slot animal in as well)
Vitalogy: Corduroy and either Last Exit or Immortality
No Code: Red Mosquito and Present Tense
Yield: Given to Fly and In Hiding (or all those yesterdays)
Binaural: Insignificance and Parting Ways (or Sleight of Hand)
Riot Act: I Am Mine or Cant Keep and All or None
S/T: Life Wasted and Inside Job
Backspacer: The Fixer and Speed of Sound
Lightning Bolt: Mind Your Manners or Infallible and Sirens or Pendulum
Gigaton: Retrograde and River Cross
Dark Matter: Agree with McPs point but I think Stevie and Setting Sun
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue July 16, 2024 6:44 pm
by warehouse
lvc wrote:There is no way on earth Alive is the representation of Ten unless the main theme of Ten is incest-inflicted complex trauma.
it's like the origin story for the rest of the album.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Tue July 16, 2024 9:07 pm
by stip
its about processing (generational)trauma and betryal and what comes next. the incest frame story is just a vehicle for those deeper questions. alive doesnt just inform the rest of ten. it really informs the rest of their catalog
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Wed July 17, 2024 9:16 pm
by Tj
Scared of Fear Setting Sun
Quick Escape
Infallible Future Days
Unthought Known Speed of Sound
Wws Marker
All or None
Insignificance
In Hiding
Who you Are
Corduroy
BLOOD
RELEASE
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Thu July 18, 2024 7:58 am
by Ello Sailor
Re: No Code -- I can't decide between "In My Tree" or "Present Tense". Both make strong cases.
Have to disagree with "Off He Goes".
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Thu July 18, 2024 8:50 am
by dimejinky99
Alive
Animal
Corduroy
In my tree
Given to fly
Sleight of Hand
Love Boat Captain
Inside Job
Force of Nature
Sirens
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Dark Matter
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Thu July 18, 2024 2:54 pm
by BootsToAsses
I remember reading an essay/article a few years ago all about In My Tree and about how the author felt it was the centrepiece of No Code.
I remember really enjoying the piece but I haven't been able to find it since.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Thu July 18, 2024 5:58 pm
by stip
Ello Sailor wrote:Re: No Code -- I can't decide between "In My Tree" or "Present Tense". Both make strong cases.
Have to disagree with "Off He Goes".
I feel like PT folds a bit more of IMT into it than the opposite
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 7:15 am
by Ello Sailor
Well PT is a pocket epic. It has the advantage of fairly dramatic tonal changes. In My Tree is goated tho. Ruddo, lose my number.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 11:57 am
by stip
Thinking just in terms of the themes (and the premise of this thread, because we're not fucking animals and thread integrity matters, damn it!) In My Tree is a song about retreating, removing yourself from the stress and distraction and pressures of people's expectations for you, and recapturing a childlike sense of innocence. But it's an end in itself in the song. It doesn't really process where to go next, what to do with it, how to sustain it. And No Code, as an album, is about trying to make peace and find a place in an often hostile and confusing world (still fame coded because it's 1996, but it's bigger than that) in a way that is sustainable. Present Tense is the song that both captures that in itself and wraps up the arc of the previous 9 songs. In My Tree may (or may not) be better, but I'd argue that Present Tense best encapsulates what No Code is trying to do, thematically.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 4:30 pm
by dimejinky99
Present tense wraps all that up quickly followed by Im open which seems to document it all and where IMT is going/ends up.
Re: Best Thematic Representation of Each Album
Posted: Fri July 19, 2024 5:06 pm
by BootsToAsses
stip wrote:Thinking just in terms of the themes (and the premise of this thread, because we're not fucking animals and thread integrity matters, damn it!) In My Tree is a song about retreating, removing yourself from the stress and distraction and pressures of people's expectations for you, and recapturing a childlike sense of innocence. But it's an end in itself in the song. It doesn't really process where to go next, what to do with it, how to sustain it. And No Code, as an album, is about trying to make peace and find a place in an often hostile and confusing world (still fame coded because it's 1996, but it's bigger than that) in a way that is sustainable. Present Tense is the song that both captures that in itself and wraps up the arc of the previous 9 songs. In My Tree may (or may not) be better, but I'd argue that Present Tense best encapsulates what No Code is trying to do, thematically.
I think this is right. In My Tree has always affected me more emotionally so it just felt like the heart of the album, but PT probably encompasses all the thoughts and feelings Eddie was having at the time better than anything else.
But man, every time that "I wave to all my friends, yeah..." moment hits I feel like I'm flying.