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Band members who were kicked out for not being good enough
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 6:27 am
by Jorge
at their instruments.
As opposed to being kicked out due to personality conflicts or other reasons.
Who couldn't cut the mustard?
Seems to happen a lot with drummers. The first drummer for Oasis, for instance. Also the guy from Sunny Day Real Estate who was in Foo Fighters for like a minute.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 6:38 am
by Ello Sailor
Jorge wrote:Also the guy from Sunny Day Real Estate who was in Foo Fighters for like a minute.
William Goldsmith. This one always surprised me because surely Dave knows what a good drummer sounds like. Why was he brought into the fold in the first place if he didn't have the chops? Was there no one else?
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 6:38 am
by Ello Sailor
Please don't hurt me Bart I like SDRE.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 6:42 am
by Jorge
Ello Sailor wrote:Jorge wrote:Also the guy from Sunny Day Real Estate who was in Foo Fighters for like a minute.
William Goldsmith. This one always surprised me because surely Dave knows what a good drummer sounds like. Why was he brought into the fold in the first place if he didn't have the chops? Was there no one else?
That whole story is kinda nuts. Apparently Dave and the producer for The Color and the Shape would joke about how bad he was. Dave re-recorded a bunch of his parts without letting him know. They only ended up keeping about 3 minutes worth of his drumming in that album. Dave doesn't come off great in that story.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 6:47 am
by Jorge
Oh, seems I have it wrong, he wasn't exactly kicked out:
Goldsmith only later learned from Mendel that his contribution was being replaced. Feeling betrayed and unhappy with Grohl's suggestion that he continue on as the band's touring drummer only, Goldsmith decided to leave.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 7:37 am
by Ello Sailor
Kind of like Corgan's approach to guitar and bass, I guess. The results speak for themselves but yeah that'd be a bitter pill to swallow.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 11:21 am
by spike
then there's boom gaspar still kickin it with PJ two decades later
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 11:24 am
by Ello Sailor
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 11:58 am
by VinylGuy
Mike Starr maybe? it was mainly because he was fucked up but i remember everyone at the band being very happy with Inez´s playing.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 12:13 pm
by Birds in Hell
Jorge wrote:Oh, seems I have it wrong, he wasn't exactly kicked out:
Goldsmith only later learned from Mendel that his contribution was being replaced. Feeling betrayed and unhappy with Grohl's suggestion that he continue on as the band's touring drummer only, Goldsmith decided to leave.
I mean, he kind of was.
It's just Dave was really terrible at going about it.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 1:12 pm
by tree_
the original nirvana drummer, wuddever his name wuz
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 1:32 pm
by liebzz
tree_ wrote:the original nirvana drummer, wuddever his name wuz
I thought it was the first other guitarist Everman, but he was never good enough, I think they brought him in because he had some connection to get them ahead in some way.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 2:47 pm
by Jorge
The original guitarist for The Police, Henry Padovani:
However, Sting was dissatisfied with Padovani's technical abilities, paving the way for Andy Summers, whom they met after a brief tour as part of Mike Howlett's band Strontium 90. For a brief period in July and August 1977, the Police performed as a four-piece with Padovani and Summers sharing guitar duties. Having insisted from the start that he wanted to be the sole guitarist for the band, Summers was unhappy with the situation. Padovani himself felt that the disparity in technical ability between the two of them made this an awkward lineup. The night after an aborted studio session with former Velvet Underground multi-instrumentalist John Cale in the producer's chair, Copeland called Padovani and asked him to leave the band.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 3:02 pm
by Kevin Davis
Bob Weir and Ron 'Pigpen' McKernan were kicked out of the Grateful Dead in '68 for not being musically as dedicated as Jerry Garcia and Phil Lesh. They were reinstated later that year and went on to become key components of their sound, but it's an interesting moment in the band's early history.
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 3:09 pm
by Jorge
Was Pete Best kicked out for a skill issue? I think I remember hearing that
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 3:14 pm
by tree_
no that was Pete Worst
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Tue July 02, 2024 4:19 pm
by spike
yeah he wasn’t a starr
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Wed July 03, 2024 1:36 am
by bart
Ello Sailor wrote:Please don't hurt me Bart I like SDRE.
He was too good for them
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Wed July 03, 2024 12:14 pm
by wease
That Jason dude that was in Soundgarden between Hiro and Ben. And he was booted from Nirvana too, right?
Re: Band members who were kicked out for not being good enou
Posted: Wed July 03, 2024 7:13 pm
by liebzz
wease wrote:That Jason dude that was in Soundgarden between Hiro and Ben. And he was booted from Nirvana too, right?
He may have been related to someone who had an inside connection with a record label or promoter? It’s been a while since I read up on my grunge history.
