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Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Sun September 15, 2024 10:26 pm
by Hypnos
When I became a fan of PJ, I was surprised by the amount of material outside of the official albums: b-sides, singles, bootlegs, etc. It was a big part of the appeal. After Avocado, it seems that they completely set aside that part of their identity and became secretive about their unreleased material. They even stopped releasing their Christmas singles, and it's been 20 years since Lost Dogs.

Is there any official explanation?

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Sun September 15, 2024 10:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Sun September 15, 2024 10:40 pm
by Monkey_Driven
They don't write and record as much material anymore.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Sun September 15, 2024 10:41 pm
by 96583UP
i think they prob had a combination of:

- Less finished-grade b-side product available

- More reluctance to share near-finished songs bc the lead time between albums extended and they wanted to keep songs available for future use

- Pearl Jam started to suck

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 7:49 am
by spike
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Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 11:05 am
by epilogue
There's also the fact if the digital/streaming age.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 11:56 am
by B
epilogue wrote:There's also the fact if the digital/streaming age.
Well, they don't release them that way either.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 12:01 pm
by B
They release more stuff as solo albums and collaborations with other artists.

The only solo album we had pre-Lost Dogs was Bayleaf, and that was only 2 years prior to Lost Dogs.

Since then, we've had 3 Vedder solos, a Cameron solo, 3? Ament solos, a Gossard solo, a few McCready movie scores, and a smattering of EPs and such.
All that music would have been sitting on the Pearl Jam floor as cut material prior to the PRAMG era.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 12:18 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, they explained something around Backspacer came out, that they were mostly trying to release everything they had in the album. Which is always a lie of course.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 12:25 pm
by spike
they all had kids

leading to PRAMG

leading to solo albums

leading to seven year album cycles

leading to stadium tours

culminating with the band playing glorified g live on stern

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 12:26 pm
by B
Ed hates playing that song because it's about guns.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Mon September 16, 2024 4:01 pm
by epilogue
B wrote:
epilogue wrote:There's also the fact if the digital/streaming age.
Well, they don't release them that way either.
Exactly my point.

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 12:10 pm
by spike
B wrote:Ed hates playing that song because it's about guns.
but he'll do it for a famous guy

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 2:47 pm
by stip
yea but he will make him beg for it

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 4:15 pm
by Chris_H_2
B wrote:Ed hates playing that song because it's about guns.
think we'll ever hear rival again if it's not the favorite song of someone like sean penn?

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 5:57 pm
by B
Comes Then Goes isn't about guns, is it?

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 6:15 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
No, it is about not cuddling after a hookup

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 6:41 pm
by Chris_H_2
ruddo

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 8:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Chris_H_2 wrote:ruddo
you know you at least smiled when you read that

Re: Bsides, Xmas Singles, Fan service

Posted: Tue September 17, 2024 8:15 pm
by Monkey_Driven
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:ruddo
you know you at least smiled when you read that
"genius"