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Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 9:23 pm
by Bi_3
Seems to be a hot topic in the chattering classes recently. Kinda feels that way.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 9:44 pm
by darth_vedder
Maybe? I was wondering the other day about the last major scene that originated in a city (because I watched Hype! on Prime). For example, Seattle. Was that the last kind of organic scene that was (mostly) city specific? Many of us were around during that time and it didn't matter where you were, what country you were in, anywhere on a global level (largely pre-internet), and it was "Seattle this" and "Seattle that". For like 4 straight years. Has that happened since? I know I'm old and shit, and I know nothing tops Tay right now, but she doesn't have a whole city scene with tons of artist like Seattle had/still has.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 9:54 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 10:10 pm
by darth_vedder
tragabigzanda wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Maybe? I was wondering the other day about the last major scene that originated in a city (because I watched Hype! on Prime). For example, Seattle. Was that the last kind of organic scene that was (mostly) city specific? Many of us were around during that time and it didn't matter where you were, what country you were in, anywhere on a global level (largely pre-internet), and it was "Seattle this" and "Seattle that". For like 4 straight years. Has that happened since? I know I'm old and shit, and I know nothing tops Tay right now, but she doesn't have a whole city scene with tons of artist like Seattle had/still has.
Have you forgotten about the Brooklyn marketing deluge of the early aughts? It's why all our cocktails are served by Rollie Fingers now.
Oh yeah, NYC in the late 90's / early 2000s with the Strokes leading the way. To clarify above too, I was only talking music and scenes specific to a city. NYC has had lots of them, London too. LA and San Fransisco and many other cities all have seen their share. They used to be pretty norm and what would drive trends, like rap in the 1980s and everyone wearing Adidas. I was not talking about anything outside of music scenes in specific cities.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 10:16 pm
by BurtReynolds
Woah woah ease up on the culture talk, culture warriors!

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 10:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 10:48 pm
by Jorge
Culture is obviously not dead. Culture can't die. You're asking something different, though I'm not sure what

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 11:25 pm
by B
:z:

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Tue September 24, 2024 11:58 pm
by 96583UP
christ what 7th grade english lit desk circle did i accidentally just step into

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 12:00 am
by Simple Torture
Yo what do we think the green light means

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 12:11 am
by Bi_3
darth_vedder wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Maybe? I was wondering the other day about the last major scene that originated in a city (because I watched Hype! on Prime). For example, Seattle. Was that the last kind of organic scene that was (mostly) city specific? Many of us were around during that time and it didn't matter where you were, what country you were in, anywhere on a global level (largely pre-internet), and it was "Seattle this" and "Seattle that". For like 4 straight years. Has that happened since? I know I'm old and shit, and I know nothing tops Tay right now, but she doesn't have a whole city scene with tons of artist like Seattle had/still has.
Have you forgotten about the Brooklyn marketing deluge of the early aughts? It's why all our cocktails are served by Rollie Fingers now.
Oh yeah, NYC in the late 90's / early 2000s with the Strokes leading the way. To clarify above too, I was only talking music and scenes specific to a city. NYC has had lots of them, London too. LA and San Fransisco and many other cities all have seen their share. They used to be pretty norm and what would drive trends, like rap in the 1980s and everyone wearing Adidas. I was not talking about anything outside of music scenes in specific cities.


I suspect hip-hop culture is the most recent easily identifiable cultural shift. Since then has there been significant new styles of art? Fashion? Architecture? Food? Anything really.... it feels like we are stuck in the whole "middle children of history" moment and all the great minds are stuck doing HFT work.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 12:20 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 12:31 am
by BurtReynolds
It's gonna get very French in here and I'm not ready for it.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 12:55 am
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:I think you’re asking about broadly shared pop-cultural experiences? To which I’d say we (westerners and modernized European countries) mostly exist in siloed pop-cultural feedback loops now, thanks to the algorithm. Broad experiences are engineered by people like Kevin Feige.

But of course micro cultures still exist. This very website is one such example.

If you’re talking specifically about music, I’d just say stop listening to rock, rap, and country music. Reject them with all your might and you’ll find a world of rich musical cultures full of innovation.
Spoiler: show
Pearl Jam sucks now

This is probably closer to the truth. It all feels largely static at this point.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 1:34 am
by BurtReynolds
If you delve too deep on this subject you'll start to wonder why everything is so goddamned beige.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 1:51 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 3:37 am
by spike
haha dammit didn’t get in before beige burt

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 11:29 am
by Bi_3
What was the last "culture" or element of culture you latched on to?

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 1:40 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Just a bunch of middle-aged, mostly well off white men working out whether or not culture is dead.

Re: Is culture dead?

Posted: Wed September 25, 2024 1:51 pm
by spike
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Just a bunch of middle-aged, mostly well off white men working out whether or not culture is dead.
Is supportive footwear a culture?