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50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:39 pm
by Jefrey with One F

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:46 pm
by Jorge
Huh.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:50 pm
by malice
Jefrey with One F wrote:http://guyism.com/entertainment/music/50-most-disappointing-albums-ever.html?single=true

No Code at #47.
It’s not a terrible album or anything, it’s just unfocused and unmemorable,
fuck that.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:51 pm
by harmless
So it sounds like Machina was Smashing Pumpkins' Backspacer.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:52 pm
by harmless
Kid motherfucking A is on there?

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 2:57 pm
by Chris_H_2
The article clearly says that disappointing doesn't necessarily mean "bad." In fact, for some albums, the author acknowledges that they're great (e.g., Kid A). It's just that fans were disappointed based on their expectations.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 3:07 pm
by harmless
"After Roger Waters left Pink Floyd, one of his first big projects was this concept album and since he was the brains behind Floyd, naturally people were interested. Then it came out, and here’s a description of the concept, from Wikipedia:


“Radio K.A.O.S. tells the story of Billy, a 23-year-old man from Wales. He is mentally and physically disabled, confined to a wheelchair and only able to work his upper body. Though he is conceived as mentally challenged, his disability has actually made him not only a genius but also superhuman, as he also has the ability to literally hear radio waves throughout all frequencies without aid.”

No, really. Of course it bombed and Waters himself later said that he regretted making the album."

:haha:

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 3:14 pm
by Lament
Chris_H_2 wrote:The article clearly says that disappointing doesn't necessarily mean "bad." In fact, for some albums, the author acknowledges that they're great (e.g., Kid A). It's just that fans were disappointed based on their expectations.
Who was disappointed by Kid A based on expectations? I mean, I knew a few people (myself included), but it was years before it was "ok" to suggest the album wasn't a world-shattering masterpiece and for the first six months it was out you couldn't have a music conversation with someone that didn't somehow involve them telling you how amazing it was. It ended up near or at the top of just about every Best of the 00's Critics list. I'm tempted to read this actual article, but I feel like it's probably gonna be lazy and piss me off.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 3:25 pm
by harmless
It's pretty lazy. Thing is, every album by everyone disappoints somebody. It's just as easy to argue that fans jumped off after Ten as that they did after No Code. However, I like that the list acknowledges that a great album can still be called a disappointment based on what actually happened.

Also I'm flummoxed that the last Kanye West album is on the list but the last Incubus album isn't. That steaming pile of cow dung is probably the only album from a band I generally like that I've ever called a steaming pile of cow dung.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 3:36 pm
by mf
Metallica sure took a (much deserved) beating on that one

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 3:38 pm
by harmless
mf wrote:Metallica sure took a (much deserved) beating on that one
I loved that about this list.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 3:45 pm
by Jorge
on Puff Daddy's album Forever, the writer wrote:Then again, Puff wasn’t able to capitalize on a more talented and famous friend’s death for this one so you can’t really blame him I guess
Ouch. Low blow.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:00 pm
by nyquillyn
Cut the Crap is a blight on The Clash's legacy. It should have been buried in the New Mexico desert with all those E.T. cartridges.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:09 pm
by Jorge
turned2black wrote:Cut the Crap is a blight on The Clash's legacy. It should have been buried in the New Mexico desert with all those E.T. cartridges.
"This is England" isn't so bad

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:15 pm
by EJ
I see nothing wrong with this list.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:46 pm
by matt reeder
harmless wrote:So it sounds like Machina was Smashing Pumpkins' Backspacer.
It's their Riot Act - a return to rock that a lot of people don't really understand, and that didn't sell very well despite a couple of very strong lead singles. Adore is absolutely their Binaural - dark, moody and unmemorable to most outsiders, but beloved to the band's hardcore fans.

And if we're continuing the comparison, Zeitgeist is their Pearl Jam and Oceania is their Backspacer - both are "return to rock" albums, but the first one is dark and political while the second is fun and more light-hearted. Pearl Jam is a much better album than Zeitgeist while Oceania is a much better album than Backspacer.

This is also reminding me that Billy Corgan is a much better songwriter than every member of PJ combined but wastes it a lot more by putting out albums he thinks people (or critics) want, rather than what he wants to do. That's why he's a three-time offender on this really stupid list.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 4:56 pm
by BurtReynolds
Is Mosquito by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on there? because that thing is shit.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:40 pm
by Kevin Davis
It’s not a terrible album or anything, it’s just unfocused and unmemorable,
Says the guy writing an article about seventeen years after its release, right?

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:45 pm
by Kevin Davis
Billy Corgan is a much better songwriter than every member of PJ combined
Come on, I love the Pumpkins but this is totally asinine.

Re: 50 most disappointing albums

Posted: Thu September 12, 2013 5:46 pm
by bodysnatcher
From the beginning without reading the list, I was skeptical of agreeing with much of anything from a site called "Guyism"