Red Mosquito

Wreckage vs Red Dot

this should be a shutout, but one of you will fuck it up

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stip wrote:this should be a shutout, but one of you will fuck it up

In short order, too!

"Wreckage" has cratered harder for me than any DM track. For the most part, my DM rankings probably look exactly like they did when the album first came out, with the exception of "Wreckage," which went from being a top-2-3 song to somewhere near the bottom of the list.

"Red Dot" is an quirky jolt of weirdness, written and performed by my favorite drummer, on my favorite album.

Wow. Stip really wants Wreckage to move forward.

wease wrote:Wow. Stip really wants Wreckage to move forward.

RISE UP!

Kevin Davis wrote:

stip wrote:this should be a shutout, but one of you will fuck it up

In short order, too!

"Wreckage" has cratered harder for me than any DM track. For the most part, my DM rankings probably look exactly like they did when the album first came out, with the exception of "Wreckage," which went from being a top-2-3 song to somewhere near the bottom of the list.

"Red Dot" is an quirky jolt of weirdness, written and performed by my favorite drummer, on my favorite album.

what tanked Wreckage for you? That one rose for me over time and has had real staying power, despite thinking it's about a minute too long

stip wrote:what tanked Wreckage for you? That one rose for me over time and has had real staying power, despite thinking it's about a minute too long

Not sure, I think I just feel like I heard everything there is to hear the first few times, and since then it's just felt dull and overlong. Even more than some of the other songs, it's one I'd really like to hear with a more natural production, and a warmer, more subdued performance. As it is, it's a bit bombastic and power-ballady for the kind of song it is, in a way that makes it hard to hear below the surface. I could imagine it taking on some new layers of depth in a Benaroya-type environment.

i feel that way about the chorus, but i love how forceful the verses are (and I think eddie’s performance is great). i dont get pop, or if I do its springsteen adjacent. they remind me a bit of the 7oclock verses, which i also love (and know you dont), though these are better

I just had to play the first 30 seconds to remember what Wreckage sounds like

Of all the tiny, weird, interstitial oddball Pearl Jam songs, Red Dot has always felt like the most minor and superfluous. I don't dislike it but it doesn't move or engage me in any intellectual or emotionally meaningful way. Sure, it exists. But if it didn't, nothing would change.

Wreckage is a perfectly fine, latter day PJ song that I enjoy whenever I hear it, even if I don't often seek it out. It has strong imagery/lyrics.

Voting for the one I don’t skip. Red Dot

I wish they still did things like Red Dot