Red Mosquito

over politics? Trying to get a rough survey from the totally not-cultist free thinkers of the board.

No disowning, but some clear lines got drawn in the sand over the last 5 years with some extended family. I’m a good diplomat, though -- we’ve kept things cordial, even affectionate. But it’s also pretty clear our values are fundamentally different, which puts a limit on how close we’ll ever be again.

We don't talk about politics too often and usually when it's brought up, I tune out or change the subject. It's usually just stale taking points from TV. There are a few nutcases, but I find it kinda endearing tbh.

The fact that I live in a different country probably helps.

I’m going on a whitewater rafting trip for three days in June with two uncles and a cousin. One of the uncles likes to bring up controversial MAGA shit to stir the pot. We all know how to deal with him but there will be others in the trip that he doesn’t know. Should be interesting

All my people are leftists but there are a few Christians unfortunately. When I was red-pilled they were merciless to me. In retrospect I respect that they gave enough of a shit to challenge me.

Jorge wrote:No disowning, but some clear lines got drawn in the sand over the last 5 years with some extended family. I’m a good diplomat, though -- we’ve kept things cordial, even affectionate. But it’s also pretty clear our values are fundamentally different, which puts a limit on how close we’ll ever be again.

Very similar, but 2.

If it gets to disownment over politics level, it’s usually an underlying character flaw that’s the real issue. One side of my family disowned a cousin over her politics, but really, she was just nuts and did other terrible things behind the scenes. The political grandstanding over email and at gatherings was just a mechanism to stir up feuds over years old resentments she had, real or in most cases imagined.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I’m going on a whitewater rafting trip for three days in June with two uncles and a cousin. One of the uncles likes to bring up controversial MAGA shit to stir the pot. We all know how to deal with him but there will be others in the trip that he doesn’t know. Should be interesting

Do you bring your own banjo or just rent one?

Never done so. Politics isn't the big sporting tournament in Australia like it is in the US. And our compulsory voting and preferential system tends to keep the crazies at bay.

Higgs wrote:Never done so. Politics isn't the big sporting tournament in Australia like it is in the US. And our compulsory voting and preferential system tends to keep the crazies at bay.

C19 vaccines on the other hand...

My brother in law is a hardcore Maga\Conspiracy theorist type...annoying on a scale you can't imagine...I also know that if I had an emergency at 2 in the morning he would be there no questions asked ready to do anything to help. These people aren't your enemies. They are just weird and so are you.

Never disowned anyone over politics, but a family member staying with us once got asked to go sleep in his car for the night after a political discussion went south.

That incident was more about general respect and boundaries than any one hot button issue though. We got through it.

Zero family members disowned.

epilogue wrote:Zero family members disowned.

You got any maga family?

Dev wrote:

epilogue wrote:Zero family members disowned.

You got any maga family?

Oh yes.

My mom and most of her siblings. Though, her oldest sister is surprisingly the opposite. She's a Menanite and very left.

My Dad is a Republican and conservative but he's not really MAGA. His youngest brother is MAGA, though.

does unfriending (on facebook) and not speaking to family members count? if we were to be at the same place i would cordially talk with them but i make no effort to initiate any type of communication or get together.

my uncle went off the deep end when trump won his first term. not sure what the name is for democratic maga but he was it. he called my brother a nazi because he wouldnt condemn trump. when my brother told me that i just unfriended him. my cousin (same side of the family as my uncle) is very pro trump. i didnt unfriend him for his political takes but because the last three people i have dated he tried asking them out. while we were still together. granted he had an alcohol problem and his marriage fell apart (mostly because of that but also a smidge of 1 of his 3 kids was actually his)

My uncle on my mom’s side was so close with the rest of us that he would eat dinner with us almost every night when I was growing up. He is currently “no contact” with all family members….not because they threw him out for spouting MAGA shit all the time, but because when people had the audacity to push back instead of politely listening to his rants, he accused them of bringing politics into it and of bullying him for being MAGA.

First and perhaps most memorable example of this was Christmas Eve 2014, when he went on a rant about Obama being from Kenya (hi, remember that that’s how all this started?). While the kids were opening presents. Just after the prayer. His mom said “honey, that’s just not true,” and he left.

I also have a nephew who apparently quit the family because of a game night, of all things. He accused another family member of “jewing” him in a trade. One of the younger kids said “that’s racist,“ which apparently became a huge screaming protest about how “Jews are white so it can’t be racist,” and how he’s tired of fighting against all of the fake news beliefs and liberal bullshit we all have. His mom finally said something to the effect of “she’s using the word racist to stand in for bigoted. And also she’s just a child. And you’re screaming. Nobody really cares what you said. Everybody here is just waiting for you to calm down so we can get back to playing the game.” So he left, and as far as I know, hasn’t spoken to anyone since.

Anyway, I know through the power of social media that both these people run around telling their social circles that their family “disowned them for being Trump supporters.”

Peeps wrote:does unfriending (on facebook) and not speaking to family members count? if we were to be at the same place i would cordially talk with them but i make no effort to initiate any type of communication or get together.

my uncle went off the deep end when trump won his first term. not sure what the name is for democratic maga but he was it. he called my brother a nazi because he wouldnt condemn trump. when my brother told me that i just unfriended him. my cousin (same side of the family as my uncle) is very pro trump. i didnt unfriend him for his political takes but because the last three people i have dated he tried asking them out. while we were still together. granted he had an alcohol problem and his marriage fell apart (mostly because of that but also a smidge of 1 of his 3 kids was actually his)

I’d say disown means sever any and all contact, so you’d have to not show up at something he’s at, or at least totally ignore him.

I believe democratic magas are know as libtards.

epilogue wrote:

Dev wrote:

epilogue wrote:Zero family members disowned.

You got any maga family?

Oh yes.

My mom and most of her siblings. Though, her oldest sister is surprisingly the opposite. She's a Menanite and very left.

My Dad is a Republican and conservative but he's not really MAGA. His youngest brother is MAGA, though.

Sounds like you are surrounded

Also where did you learn to spell Mennonite?