Red Mosquito

For several years now Metallica has been doing this. 2 shows in a city. 15-16 songs each night, but no repeats. My son and I went in 23 and 24, and they were great, but the non-hits are pretty much the same in every city. PJ played 2 shows in most places during the DM tour and picked from their entire non-Gigaton catalog, but they repeated many of the hits and DM songs. I’d love to see them do the no repeat weekend format. 25 songs each night. How great would it be to travel to a city with tickets for both shows and know you’re going to see 50 songs? It’d be worth it just to see how they’d do an encore without Alive.

I’ve been wanting them to open with Alive for years.

(Not what you were talking about, I know).

I think they would get in a rut of doing the same two shows every weekend. Or at least just picking from the same 50 songs. I don’t think they’d go as deep not the catalogue as we’d hope.

i think they used to try much harder to do no repeats

i wonder if there is an element now with ticket prices being so high that they feel like they have to play the hits otherwise people will be unhappy

people with $600-900 for a ticket usually are not there to see sleight of hand

Night one / Night two

Alive / Given to Fly
Daughter / Elderly Woman
Jeremy / Even Flow
Better Man / Black
Ledbetter / Corduroy

Those are the for sure need to be played songs.

RITFW / Baba

Those are the obligatory encore covers.

Why Go? / Do the Ev
Porch / Rearviewmirror

Those are staples. That’s only 8 songs each night. If you assume 3 other fairly predictable slow songs to start (Release, Nothingman, Lowlight or Long Road, Of the Girl, Present Tense) and one Ed solo song to begin the encore, there are still 13 songs left each night. Everyone is going to go home happy.

wease wrote:I’ve been wanting them to open with Alive for years.

(Not what you were talking about, I know).

I think they would get in a rut of doing the same two shows every weekend. Or at least just picking from the same 50 songs. I don’t think they’d go as deep not the catalogue as we’d hope.

Honestly, they’re going as deep as I’d hope now. I’d rather hear a solid Light Years, Tremor Christ, and Deep than a half-ass Dirty Frank, Force of Nature, and WMA. This would just give them a way to double those songs each night. Get Light Years, Tremor Christ, and Deep, but also get Dissident, MFC, and Brain of J in the same show.

96583UP wrote:i think they used to try much harder to do no repeats

i wonder if there is an element now with ticket prices being so high that they feel like they have to play the hits otherwise people will be unhappy

people with $600-900 for a ticket usually are not there to see sleight of hand

Looking at Nashville, Raleigh and Pitt from this year


Nashville:
Total songs: 50
Repeats: 6 -12% even flow, dark matter, wreckage, porch, do the evolution, alive
Non-repeats: 38


Raleigh
Total songs: 48
Repeats: 6 - 25% Corduroy, dark matter, even flow, do the evolution, porch, alive
Non-repeats: 36

Pittsburgh:
Total songs: 52 plus two tags
Repeats: -10% 5 dark matter, wreckage, even flow, do the evolution, alive
Non repeats: 42

Overall 92 unique songs over 11 shows.


By and large this is what they are doing. It feels like they aren’t because we have seen them so many times and track set lists.

stip wrote:

96583UP wrote:i think they used to try much harder to do no repeats

i wonder if there is an element now with ticket prices being so high that they feel like they have to play the hits otherwise people will be unhappy

people with $600-900 for a ticket usually are not there to see sleight of hand

Looking at Nashville, Raleigh and Pitt from this year…


By and large this is what they are doing. It feels like they aren’t because we have seen them so many times and track set lists.

I still want to see them open with Alive

jeff ament recently said the only songs that are really played every night are alive, evenflow, corduroy and porch. touring a record is gonna add to that list, but the last time i saw them i think they repeated like 8 songs over 2 nights. if they aren't promoting a record they could 100% do this, but they practically do it already.

split up those four over 2 nights. play 'sonic reducer' in the encore in place of 'alive'. 'porch' gets replaces by 'rvm' at the end of the main set anyway. 'corduroy' can get subbed for 'hunger strike' and play 'breath' instead of 'evenflow'.

Evolution is a near constant but that’s due to the video

wease wrote:I’ve been wanting them to open with Alive for years.

I saw this once. It was equally cool and discombobulating at the same time.

bodysnatcher wrote:

wease wrote:I’ve been wanting them to open with Alive for years.

I saw this once. It was equally cool and discombobulating at the same time.

same, and yes.

stip wrote:

96583UP wrote:i think they used to try much harder to do no repeats

i wonder if there is an element now with ticket prices being so high that they feel like they have to play the hits otherwise people will be unhappy

people with $600-900 for a ticket usually are not there to see sleight of hand

Looking at Nashville, Raleigh and Pitt from this year


Nashville:
Total songs: 50
Repeats: 6 -12% even flow, dark matter, wreckage, porch, do the evolution, alive
Non-repeats: 38


Raleigh
Total songs: 48
Repeats: 6 - 25% Corduroy, dark matter, even flow, do the evolution, porch, alive
Non-repeats: 36

Pittsburgh:
Total songs: 52 plus two tags
Repeats: -10% 5 dark matter, wreckage, even flow, do the evolution, alive
Non repeats: 42

Overall 92 unique songs over 11 shows.


By and large this is what they are doing. It feels like they aren’t because we have seen them so many times and track set lists.

Yes, they are ALMOST doing it. On average, it’s just 6 songs being repeated. I think that a 6 song change would make a huge difference. And yes, I’m posting from the point-of-view of someone who has seen many shows, but I think that’s most people still seeing Pearl Jam.

When you get a 3 day weekend, you get to enjoy the extra day off, but what’s almost better is knowing you have a short work week. I’d enjoy 6 more songs, but I’d equally enjoy (and definitely appreciate more) Alive, Porch, Do the Ev, Even Flow, Wreckage, and Dark Matter because I’d know I’m only going to see them once.

Might be crying over spilled milk since I think DM and wreckage will no longer be played at every show. In hindsight it would've been better if DM, wreckage and setting sun only got played once per city over the last two years.