Differences you've noticed between vinyl and CD

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Differences you've noticed between vinyl and CD

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I just got a record player for Christmas and will begin the long task of saving up for PJ vinyl (original only). So far, I've heard that the vinyl version of Riot Act runs circles around the CD version, which I feel showcases horrible production values. If you have experience with listening to both versions of various albums, please let me know your thoughts. Thank you.
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CDs are smaller
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The production on RA is stellar.
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Yeah, Riot Act has some of the band's best production.

For what it's worth, from what I understand, the vinyl sounds exactly the same as the CD for Riot Act (and almost all other Pearl Jam releases).
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Yeah Pearl Jam records sound mostly the same on vinyl.
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Any difference in sound quality is definitely not worth the price when it comes to Pearl Jam records.
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It doesn't matter if you can't hear a difference, as long as you're convinced it's there.
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theplatypus wrote:It doesn't matter if you can't hear a difference, as long as you're convinced it's there.
It's kind of the opposite to that, though.

The source material used to produce the CD and the LP is exactly the same but people are convinced one sounds different to the other. They hear differences that are demonstrably not there. They won't sound identical but that's attributable to the physical differences between the formats, not some difference in source fidelity.
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LB was mastered separately for vinyl and sounds great. Much better dynamics and bass depth.

Original pressings of Ten through Vitalogy sound better to me than any CD. Least (or worse) would have to be ST and BS which are waaay too shrill on vinyl. Would love a remaster-reissue of ST at some point.
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Exactly, that's what I said.
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Birds in Hell wrote:Yeah, Riot Act has some of the band's best production.

For what it's worth, from what I understand, the vinyl sounds exactly the same as the CD for Riot Act (and almost all other Pearl Jam releases).
I've already listened to other artists on my stereo system, back and forth between digital and vinyl versions of the same tunes at the same volume, and there is clearly a difference in sound. The vinyl versions can, at their best, sound a lot more crisp with deeper textures and warmer bass. I like that.
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12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
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Vinyl typically results in a lot more discussions about what you own, and why yours is better.
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doug rr wrote:12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
You can call it whatever you want, but the bass sounds different on vinyl. I've read enough on the subject to know that it is actually the result of vinyl's limitations and the hard work of engineers to make up for that, but what we're left with is something that I would describe as "warmer".
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aurynsdad wrote:
doug rr wrote:12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
You can call it whatever you want, but the bass sounds different on vinyl. I've read enough on the subject to know that it is actually the result of vinyl's limitations and the hard work of engineers to make up for that, but what we're left with is something that I would describe as "warmer".
I'm not ragging on you but since Neil Young coined that phrase years ago it just seems to have really caught on...I love vinyl as well but I dont know what "warmer" sounds like..I just say it sounds better
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doug rr wrote:
aurynsdad wrote:
doug rr wrote:12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
You can call it whatever you want, but the bass sounds different on vinyl. I've read enough on the subject to know that it is actually the result of vinyl's limitations and the hard work of engineers to make up for that, but what we're left with is something that I would describe as "warmer".
I'm not ragging on you but since Neil Young coined that phrase years ago it just seems to have really caught on...I love vinyl as well but I dont know what "warmer" sounds like..I just say it sounds better
I love vinyl too, partly for the sound and partly for nostalgic reasons. But to put it simply, the apparent warmth is really just harmonic distortion.
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
doug rr wrote:
aurynsdad wrote:
doug rr wrote:12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
You can call it whatever you want, but the bass sounds different on vinyl. I've read enough on the subject to know that it is actually the result of vinyl's limitations and the hard work of engineers to make up for that, but what we're left with is something that I would describe as "warmer".
I'm not ragging on you but since Neil Young coined that phrase years ago it just seems to have really caught on...I love vinyl as well but I dont know what "warmer" sounds like..I just say it sounds better
I love vinyl too, partly for the sound and partly for nostalgic reasons. But to put it simply, the apparent warmth is really just harmonic distortion.
What is a 12 inch vinyl in the metric system?
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doug rr wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
doug rr wrote:
aurynsdad wrote:
doug rr wrote:12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
You can call it whatever you want, but the bass sounds different on vinyl. I've read enough on the subject to know that it is actually the result of vinyl's limitations and the hard work of engineers to make up for that, but what we're left with is something that I would describe as "warmer".
I'm not ragging on you but since Neil Young coined that phrase years ago it just seems to have really caught on...I love vinyl as well but I dont know what "warmer" sounds like..I just say it sounds better
I love vinyl too, partly for the sound and partly for nostalgic reasons. But to put it simply, the apparent warmth is really just harmonic distortion.
What is a 12 inch vinyl in the metric system?
About $20.
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
doug rr wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
doug rr wrote:
aurynsdad wrote:
doug rr wrote:12 posts until "warmer" was mentioned..I had a bet with myself it would be on the first page
You can call it whatever you want, but the bass sounds different on vinyl. I've read enough on the subject to know that it is actually the result of vinyl's limitations and the hard work of engineers to make up for that, but what we're left with is something that I would describe as "warmer".
I'm not ragging on you but since Neil Young coined that phrase years ago it just seems to have really caught on...I love vinyl as well but I dont know what "warmer" sounds like..I just say it sounds better
I love vinyl too, partly for the sound and partly for nostalgic reasons. But to put it simply, the apparent warmth is really just harmonic distortion.
What is a 12 inch vinyl in the metric system?
About $20.
in Australian dollars?
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