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Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Tue January 01, 2013 5:44 pm
by VinylGuy
So, it seems Adore is coming next...what should be expecting? are the Matt Cameron songs going to be in it?
Besides, a rick rubin version of Let me give the world to you?
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Tue January 01, 2013 6:10 pm
by matt reeder
This should be a fascinating reissue. First there's this:
I expect the following to be on it in some form:
Let Me Give The World To You [Rick Rubin studio version]
Cash Car Star [studio version]
Blissed and Gone [was cut only for time concerns...it was replaced with "17", which is a short piano version of "Blissed and Gone"]
Pug [with Matt Cameron; supposedly a rock version like what was played on tour]
Do You Close Your Eyes? [
outtake from this era]
Chewing Gum [
outtake from this era]
The End Is The Beginning Is The End [on a soundtrack; expect an "alternate" version to get around royalty issues]
Waiting [the studio version or a demo?
listen here]
Valentine [Billy acoustic demo;
listen here]
etc.
There's lots from this era (like every era...) that deserves a release. I can't wait to hear what Billy finds. There are a ton of pro-shot videos from this era so I expect a full show this time.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Tue January 01, 2013 6:49 pm
by VinylGuy
matt reeder wrote:This should be a fascinating reissue. First there's this:
I expect the following to be on it in some form:
Let Me Give The World To You [Rick Rubin studio version]
Cash Car Star [studio version]
Blissed and Gone [was cut only for time concerns...it was replaced with "17", which is a short piano version of "Blissed and Gone"]
Pug [with Matt Cameron; supposedly a rock version like what was played on tour]
Do You Close Your Eyes? [
outtake from this era]
Chewing Gum [
outtake from this era]
The End Is The Beginning Is The End [on a soundtrack; expect an "alternate" version to get around royalty issues]
Waiting [the studio version or a demo?
listen here]
Valentine [Billy acoustic demo;
listen here]
etc.
is that the original cover??
How is that Rick Rubin become involved in just one song? i really hope they release all songs with matt, always thought the pumpkins would be a great band for him.
There's lots from this era (like every era...) that deserves a release. I can't wait to hear what Billy finds. There are a ton of pro-shot videos from this era so I expect a full show this time.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Tue January 01, 2013 6:52 pm
by Simple Torture
VinylGuy wrote:
is that the original cover??
If I'm not mistaken, that was the original vinyl cover only.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 1:52 am
by VinylGuy
Simple Torture wrote:VinylGuy wrote:
is that the original cover??
If I'm not mistaken, that was the original vinyl cover only.
Nice cover.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:11 pm
by i got bugs
one of my highlights in 2012 music
lovin the mellon collie.. the demo of to forgive is so awesome.. the 33 demo is better than the original.. so many good ones, been listenin to em more than the actual regular songs
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:16 pm
by Norah
I keep seeing Mellon Collie in the store and want to get it but can't justify spending the money.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 7:54 pm
by Simple Torture
cutuphalfdead wrote:I keep seeing Mellon Collie in the store and want to get it but can't justify spending the money.
It looks really nice on the shelf.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 8:11 pm
by j's brain
"Do You Close Your Eyes?" sounds great. So much music coming out of that dude - you can almost see why he perceives the world like he does. He's a (musical) genius surrounded by us common folk who couldn't possibly understand.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Fri January 04, 2013 3:18 am
by B
OK, so I've got
Gish + 1 disc
Siamese Dream + 1 disc
Pisces Iscariot + 1 disc
Mellon Collie + 3 discs
Adore
Machina
Machina II
Greatest Hits + Judas 0
Zwan (let's face it, that's Smashing Pumpkins)
Zeitgeist
Oceania
That's 18 fucking discs of Smashing Pumpkins, plus whatever Teargarden stuff I've got.
Guys, I'm kinda overwhelmed. Shawn Smith doesn't record this much.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Fri January 04, 2013 3:29 am
by zeb
B wrote:Zwan (let's face it, that's Smashing Pumpkins)
Wha?
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Fri January 04, 2013 4:03 am
by B
zeb wrote:B wrote:Zwan (let's face it, that's Smashing Pumpkins)
Wha?
What distinguishes it from Smashing Pumpkins?
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Fri January 04, 2013 4:27 am
by oasisfan35
If Billy and Jimmy can continue as the Pumpkins, or did, I suppose that gives rise to B's argument; but not much else.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 09, 2013 2:28 pm
by VinylGuy
fuck this Mellon Collie Reissue is great!!
A lot of good stuff from those sessions, most of the outtakes are really, really good...and those unfinished or instrumental songs are great too.
He was way ahead of his peers at the time.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 09, 2013 3:14 pm
by southp
B wrote:OK, so I've got
Gish + 1 disc
Siamese Dream + 1 disc
Pisces Iscariot + 1 disc
Mellon Collie + 3 discs
Adore
Machina
Machina II
Greatest Hits + Judas 0
Zwan (let's face it, that's Smashing Pumpkins)
Zeitgeist
Oceania
That's 18 fucking discs of Smashing Pumpkins, plus whatever Teargarden stuff I've got.
Guys, I'm kinda overwhelmed. Shawn Smith doesn't record this much.
It's almost overwhelming and they're coming so fast it's hard to digest.
What's insane is that PJ writes by committee and they haven't produced half the material that Billy alone has churned out in the same time. Even if a lot of it is not fit for repeat consumption it's great to have for any completest.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 09, 2013 7:13 pm
by VinylGuy
All the sadlands demos are just astonishing..most of them are just Billy with a guitar...and yet the songs are so powerful.
I really think he needs to work with a producer like Flood or Butch Vig in the next record.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Wed January 09, 2013 7:35 pm
by bada
Agree. I'm not a big fan of bands producing their own albums they need someone to say "that's not good enough".
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 2:48 pm
by VinylGuy
Even though the tracklists for Mellon Collie are pretty much perfect, Set the ray to jerry should have been on that record.
That´s no b-side Billy.
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 5:18 pm
by washing machine
I really haven't been keeping up here. What's the least expensive way to purchase the demo tracks?
Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues
Posted: Thu January 10, 2013 5:19 pm
by VinylGuy
surface the north wrote:I really haven't been keeping up here. What's the least expensive way to purchase the demo tracks?
Torrent.