Red Mosquito

This popped up on my eBay feed

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOP-TAPE-OF-THE ... 6016.l4276

and it reminded me that PJ was absolutely marketed as a hair metal band when they first hit the scene. Interesting to see them in the company of Danger Danger, Firehouse, and Europe. Granted, this looks to be some sort of record company marketing promo thing, but still. Revisionist history (on the part of the band and others) says that they were "grunge pioneers," whose peers were the Chili Peppers, the Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, and so on. And of course they quickly jumped from metal to grunge/punk/alternative, as did bands like AIC and anyone else interested in survival (and toured with the Peps, Pumpkins, and AIC). I realize much of this is just marketing and bullshit, but it's interesting that the record company doods at Epic thought they belonged with this bunch of (mostly) metal hesher bands.

You're still on this? They were never a hair metal band, silly man. You've proven nothing. I expect a contrite retraction immediately.

MLB was a glam rock band and Mike is a fan of all kinds of shitty music. If not for Eddie's influence I could definitely see how they could have gone in a very different direction.

tommymctom wrote:MLB was a glam rock band and Mike is a fan of all kinds of shitty music. If not for Eddie's influence I could definitely see how they could have gone in a very different direction.

Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

McParadigm wrote:Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

is it about feminism in hair metal?

BurtReynolds wrote:You're still on this? They were never a hair metal band, silly man. You've proven nothing. I expect a contrite retraction immediately.

marketed as a hair metal band

No retraction! (But maybe some contrition.)

It's so embarrassing when your roots are showing.

doug rr wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

is it about feminism in hair metal?

You can't talk about the little bit of feminism in David Lee Roth without talking about the little bit of David Lee Roth in the feminists

McParadigm wrote:

doug rr wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

is it about feminism in hair metal?

You can't talk about the little bit of feminism in David Lee Roth without talking about the little bit of David Lee Roth in the feminists

*ewws*

Varis wrote:It's so embarrassing when your roots are showing.

9.8/10

They actually denounced the term 'grunge'

Definitely NOT marketed as 'Hair Metal'... but Pantera was... Look up their first album cover for a good laugh.

I like to think PJ was simply a great rock band. Now they're just a train wreck anytime they're outside of the studio. The EV solo shows are much more impressive.

Iholdthepain wrote:They actually denounced the term 'grunge'

Definitely NOT marketed as 'Hair Metal'... but Pantera was... Look up their first album cover for a good laugh.

I like to think PJ was simply a great rock band. Now they're just a train wreck anytime they're outside of the studio. The EV solo shows are much more impressive.

Did you see any shows this tour? The general impression was that they were great. This is anecdotal, but I took a casual fan to his first show (Brooklyn 2). His favorite bands are arcade fire and the national. He saw all 3 bands in about a month span of each other and thought pjs shows was the best by a fair bit.

Of course you can't take the rm out of rmers so as soon as the tour finished everyone went back to talking about how pearl jam has sucked since 2000/2003/2006

stip wrote:as soon as the tour finished everyone went back to talking about how pearl jam has sucked since 2000/2003/2006

C'mon stip. You know Pearl Jam has sucked ever since the Jones Beach Lollapalooza show in 1992.

That's a given. I guess I should have said that they double sucked.

Most of Ten was written before Woods died so i presume it was supposed to be the basis of MLB's second album so if you argue one is glam rock the 2nd can't be far from it.

speaking about marketing if you can define the look of the artwork as marketing




I think it could be argued that what Ten is perceived as is in good part the consequence of successful marketing and the nostalgia factor.

McParadigm wrote:

doug rr wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

is it about feminism in hair metal?

You can't talk about the little bit of feminist in David Lee Roth without talking about the little bit of David Lee Roth in the feminist

*feminine

malice wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

doug rr wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

is it about feminism in hair metal?

You can't talk about the little bit of feminism in David Lee Roth without talking about the little bit of David Lee Roth in the feminists

*ewws*

McParadigm wrote:

malice wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

doug rr wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Hop on over to the Mudhoney thread. Read the link malice posted there. Come back. Discuss that instead. It's more interesting.

is it about feminism in hair metal?

You can't talk about the little bit of feminism in David Lee Roth without talking about the little bit of David Lee Roth in the feminists

*ewws*

This scared the feminist right out of my coworker.