Match AV: Whipping vs. Just a Girl

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there are so many amazing songs that the ten sessions produced, but this is not one of them
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"This song's called Whipping, kill one another." -EV Dallas '93

What a dick thing to say.
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I agree, but criticizing Ed for saying something dickish on stage is gonna find you in the middle of an uproar you probably don't want to be in. I learned that when I had the audacity to suggest that the mosquito bites rant was mean-spirited.
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Lament wrote:I agree, but criticizing Ed for saying something dickish on stage is gonna find you in the middle of an uproar you probably don't want to be in. I learned that when I had the audacity to suggest that the mosquito bites rant was mean-spirited.
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I still maintain that of all of the things he's ever said on stage, this is the most reprehensible.
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YIKES! That last comment came outta left field. Ed's a dick posing as a feminist. Not sure how that can be defended, but I'm sure it was solved in another thread some time ago.
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I think people were saying that one isolated dick comment doesn't reveal a shriveled black soul, rather than a defense of the comment itself.
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Some were. They were also those who pitched the line that "Anyone with a microphone in front of that many people is bound to say something like that at some point."

No one was arguing Ed was a terrible person. They were arguing it was a terrible thing to say. The conflict arose from those who didn't think it was a terrible thing to say. There was definitely a segment of "She deserved for how she was acting," "Imagine how pissed you'd be if you were him," and stuff like that.
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evidently, Ed likes the big jugs.
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Lament wrote:Some were. They were also those who pitched the line that "Anyone with a microphone in front of that many people is bound to say something like that at some point."

No one was arguing Ed was a terrible person. They were arguing it was a terrible thing to say. The conflict arose from those who didn't think it was a terrible thing to say. There was definitely a segment of "She deserved for how she was acting," "Imagine how pissed you'd be if you were him," and stuff like that.
Well shit, I'm sure I said that thing about the microphone too. And iirc (maybe I don't) there were definitley people pushing that beyond something terrible to say. The comment about the microphone is a response to that.

This was the same time as the Ramone guitar tech incident, I think, and some people were linking the two together in a 'gotcha, this is the real Ed' sort of moment. I bet no code dog collars were involved, too.
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I believe it was something along the lines of...
stip wrote:I bet her tits were small enough to wear a No Code dog collar as a bra.
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did y'all also bring up the Dallas '93 comment or maybe the Marky Mark comment? The way he made Stone fire Dave A? Being a complete ass to Kurt Loder after the '93 VMA's? What's the saying... A tiger doesn't change his spots, or something?

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The Dallas 93 one didn't come up, but the Marky Mark one may have (though that may have come up somewhere else and I'm mis-remembering). I'm certain the Dave A. firing was a strong theme in the discussion.

He's an immense talent. I'm sure he does a lot of commendable things as well. On the whole he very well may be a good dude. I still wouldn't want to sit across a table from him though.
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Iholdthepain wrote:did y'all also bring up the Dallas '93 comment or maybe the Marky Mark comment? The way he made Stone fire Dave A? Being a complete ass to Kurt Loder after the '93 VMA's? What's the saying... A tiger doesn't change his spots, or something?

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I certainly would not have wanted to hang out with Eddie in 1993
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I probably wouldn't want to hang out with any of them at any point in their career. Definitely not Ed or Stone. Mike seems like he'd be a nice guy, but I couldn't imagine wanting to talk to him about anything. Maybe it'd be cool to go shopping for Vans with Jeff.
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Yeah, me neither. I don't need my musicians to be my friends
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Having said that, I bet they are better company these days
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I bet if you talked to Ed about being a dad, he'd be into it.
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I bet he is way more into it. Millions of dollars and part time employment probably help take the edge off.
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