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PJ songs about losing a loved one now with tallying device

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:11 pm
by DeLima
Which is the most accurate portrayal of experiencing the death of a loved one?

Long Road, Sad, Light Years, Come Back, Other Side, Man of the Hour, Release, Indifference...

This would actually be a pretty good encore set.

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:14 pm
by B
Why not Other Side and Long Road?

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:16 pm
by DeLima
Will edit header

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:22 pm
by Strat
For me it is Light Years.

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:22 pm
by McParadigm
none of those came close for me

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:23 pm
by DeLima
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me
go on

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:25 pm
by Strat
DeLima wrote:
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me
go on
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Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:26 pm
by Thejambi
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:26 pm
by DeLima
Thejambi wrote:
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me
go on

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:27 pm
by Iholdthepain
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me
Agreed... Once you've gone through it, it's difficult to qualify with a song. Also, if you DO tie a song to the experience (like I did), you may never want to hear the song again.

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:34 pm
by McParadigm
DeLima wrote:
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me
go on
They just seemed a little too platitudinal, I guess. A lot of what's in those songs feels like the stuff you think a year after the fact, or like the little moments of sudden reflective sadness that strike you at odd times six months down the road. Some of them are totally detached from the experience, altogether (Sad). Or that was how it was for me.

There is a natural anger, and a very personal quality to the melancholy that accompanies great loss, and it's hard to capture in song. For me, there were a lot of moments in other songs that were about living rather than about death that felt suddenly very heartbreaking and yet impactful, in a grieving kind of way. They were more rumination-focused, or wistfully wishful in a very in-actionable way. As far as Pearl Jam songs, the verses of Present Tense or Wishlist might come closest to what that was.

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:34 pm
by Norah
man of the hour maybe?

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:35 pm
by stip
I edited the title, added your poll, and excluded indifference.

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:36 pm
by stip
I think man of the hour has come closest to my own personal experiences, but I've been fortunate to not lose anyone closer than a grandparent so far.

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:39 pm
by Thejambi
This thread is too ambiguous.

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:44 pm
by DeLima
stip wrote:I edited the title, added your poll, and excluded indifference.
I appreciate this work but am interested in your justification for excluding indifference. The lyrics "watch as she lies silent" clearly indicate thematic relevance at the least.

Re: Indifference/Light Years/Sad/Come Back/Long Road/Other S

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:44 pm
by DeLima
McParadigm wrote:
DeLima wrote:
McParadigm wrote:none of those came close for me
go on
They just seemed a little too platitudinal, I guess. A lot of what's in those songs feels like the stuff you think a year after the fact, or like the little moments of sudden reflective sadness that strike you at odd times six months down the road. Some of them are totally detached from the experience, altogether (Sad). Or that was how it was for me.

There is a natural anger, and a very personal quality to the melancholy that accompanies great loss, and it's hard to capture in song. For me, there were a lot of moments in other songs that were about living rather than about death that felt suddenly very heartbreaking and yet impactful, in a grieving kind of way. They were more rumination-focused, or wistfully wishful in a very in-actionable way. As far as Pearl Jam songs, the verses of Present Tense or Wishlist might come closest to what that was.
interesting

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 3:58 pm
by Thejambi
The small instrumental of Immortality in Immagine is the closest for me. Maybe The End as a whole song.

99% of us is Failure By Matthew Good is the only song I legitimately connect with actual losses I've had.

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 4:04 pm
by stip
DeLima wrote:
stip wrote:I edited the title, added your poll, and excluded indifference.
I appreciate this work but am interested in your justification for excluding indifference. The lyrics "watch as she lies silent" clearly indicate thematic relevance at the least.
i am working under the assumption that most of us do not experience death by waking up next to and/or sleeping with a corpse, and that if we do, do not immediately begin ruminating on our existential significance.

Re: Best song about the death of a loved one

Posted: Fri March 28, 2014 4:06 pm
by DeLima
stip wrote:
DeLima wrote:
stip wrote:I edited the title, added your poll, and excluded indifference.
I appreciate this work but am interested in your justification for excluding indifference. The lyrics "watch as she lies silent" clearly indicate thematic relevance at the least.
i am working under the assumption that most of us do not experience death by waking up next to and/or sleeping with a corpse, and that if we do, do not immediately begin ruminating on our existential significance.
I think you're being a little literal here, stip. And I actually thinking ruminating on our existential significance is a very natural response to the death of a loved one.

Please reinsert the aforementioned song.