Red Mosquito

Not sure if there are any RMers based in Ottawa, but stay safe, ya'll.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/ame ... ?hpt=hp_t1

This is really scary stuff.

I have a lot of family and friends there, scary stuff indeed.

Three separate shootings?

Biff Pocoroba wrote:Three separate shootings?

That's what initial reports said, but based on previous experience, I wouldn't be surprised if that number comes down.

Biff Pocoroba wrote:Three separate shootings?

3 locations that are all very close together - whether they are from 3 separate incidents is still unclear. From what I understand it started with a passenger getting out of a car and opening fire on a soldier at a war memorial, who then ran a short distance to the Parliament building where the original car/driver had stopped. It seems as though a suspect was gunned down by police inside Parliament. So one or more gunmen in the building? There were then later reports of gunfire at a nearby shopping centre, which is about a block from the original site where the soldier was shot.

here's raw video of the gunfire from within Parliament.

It sounds like there was no shooting at the Rideau Centre now, and the soldier who was shot has apparently died. Horrible, horrible news.

It looks likened an RCMP press conference will be happening soon.

This is the kind of hatred Harper brings. He just pisses the world off. Russia imposed trade sanctions on us, because of his big mouth.

Dev wrote:This is the kind of hatred Harper brings. He just pisses the world off. Russia imposed trade sanctions on us, because of his big mouth.

So... this happened because the guy didn't like Harper?

dev finally snapped

philpritchard wrote:

Dev wrote:This is the kind of hatred Harper brings. He just pisses the world off. Russia imposed trade sanctions on us, because of his big mouth.

So... this happened because the guy didn't like Harper?

I think Harper has changed the world's opinion of Canada to an extent.

Dev wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

Dev wrote:This is the kind of hatred Harper brings. He just pisses the world off. Russia imposed trade sanctions on us, because of his big mouth.

So... this happened because the guy didn't like Harper?

I think Harper has changed the world's opinion of Canada to an extent.

Nope - everyone seems still like Canada buddy!

We're both the shooter and the driver in the other incident Qubecers? Maybe it's not Harper so much but that darned Anglo cultural hegemony.

simple schoolboy wrote:We're both the shooter and the driver in the other incident Qubecers? Maybe it's not Harper so much but that darned Anglo cultural hegemony.

Apparently the Ottawa guy once lived in Montreal - the driver was def a quebecer but both had become ISIS afficionados so I'm quite sure it had nothing to do with the french/anglo thing.

It must be remembered that a bit more than a year ago, some dude tried to shoot the then-newly-elected Quebec prime minister (the Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois, who was, incidentally, the first woman to hold this position here) but ended up killing a sound tech instead. His agenda was pretty clear - he was against francophones. Of course, that was not handled as a terrorism act. Federalist news outlets prefered to called the shooter "a troubled lover of the great Canada".

Harper did change Canada's role in world affairs, turning the traditionnally humanitarian role of the army into a completely biaised and belligerent organization. I don't mean to justify this week attacks but to see this as a surprise is pretty fucking naive.

mastaflatch wrote:
Harper did change Canada's role in world affairs, turning the traditionnally humanitarian role of the army into a completely biaised and belligerent organization. I don't mean to justify this week attacks but to see this as a surprise is pretty fucking naive.

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Some pictures of Cpl. Nathan Cirillo's final ride on the Highway of Heroes.

mastaflatch wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:We're both the shooter and the driver in the other incident Qubecers? Maybe it's not Harper so much but that darned Anglo cultural hegemony.

Apparently the Ottawa guy once lived in Montreal - the driver was def a quebecer but both had become ISIS afficionados so I'm quite sure it had nothing to do with the french/anglo thing.

It must be remembered that a bit more than a year ago, some dude tried to shoot the then-newly-elected Quebec prime minister (the Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois, who was, incidentally, the first woman to hold this position here) but ended up killing a sound tech instead. His agenda was pretty clear - he was against francophones. Of course, that was not handled as a terrorism act. Federalist news outlets prefered to called the shooter "a troubled lover of the great Canada".

Harper did change Canada's role in world affairs, turning the traditionnally humanitarian role of the army into a completely biaised and belligerent organization. I don't mean to justify this week attacks but to see this as a surprise is pretty fucking naive.

Pointing to an insane shooter to support policy changes is a failing strategy. The attempted shooter of the Quebec Prime Minister claimed that Jesus told him to do so. I'd love a follow up article, fuck, I'd love to be wrong, but I'd wager he's just nuts. And damn it, scrolling through more than three Google pages makes it obscure in my book.

simple schoolboy wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:We're both the shooter and the driver in the other incident Qubecers? Maybe it's not Harper so much but that darned Anglo cultural hegemony.

Apparently the Ottawa guy once lived in Montreal - the driver was def a quebecer but both had become ISIS afficionados so I'm quite sure it had nothing to do with the french/anglo thing.

It must be remembered that a bit more than a year ago, some dude tried to shoot the then-newly-elected Quebec prime minister (the Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois, who was, incidentally, the first woman to hold this position here) but ended up killing a sound tech instead. His agenda was pretty clear - he was against francophones. Of course, that was not handled as a terrorism act. Federalist news outlets prefered to called the shooter "a troubled lover of the great Canada".

Harper did change Canada's role in world affairs, turning the traditionnally humanitarian role of the army into a completely biaised and belligerent organization. I don't mean to justify this week attacks but to see this as a surprise is pretty fucking naive.

Pointing to an insane shooter to support policy changes is a failing strategy. The attempted shooter of the Quebec Prime Minister claimed that Jesus told him to do so. I'd love a follow up article, fuck, I'd love to be wrong, but I'd wager he's just nuts. And damn it, scrolling through more than three Google pages makes it obscure in my book.

I'm not sure what is being argued here but Quebec doesn't have it's own Prime Minister, it has a Premier, like all the other provinces. I have not heard if they've discovered a motive for the Ottawa guy other than psychological.

doone wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:We're both the shooter and the driver in the other incident Qubecers? Maybe it's not Harper so much but that darned Anglo cultural hegemony.

Apparently the Ottawa guy once lived in Montreal - the driver was def a quebecer but both had become ISIS afficionados so I'm quite sure it had nothing to do with the french/anglo thing.

It must be remembered that a bit more than a year ago, some dude tried to shoot the then-newly-elected Quebec prime minister (the Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois, who was, incidentally, the first woman to hold this position here) but ended up killing a sound tech instead. His agenda was pretty clear - he was against francophones. Of course, that was not handled as a terrorism act. Federalist news outlets prefered to called the shooter "a troubled lover of the great Canada".

Harper did change Canada's role in world affairs, turning the traditionnally humanitarian role of the army into a completely biaised and belligerent organization. I don't mean to justify this week attacks but to see this as a surprise is pretty fucking naive.

Pointing to an insane shooter to support policy changes is a failing strategy. The attempted shooter of the Quebec Prime Minister claimed that Jesus told him to do so. I'd love a follow up article, fuck, I'd love to be wrong, but I'd wager he's just nuts. And damn it, scrolling through more than three Google pages makes it obscure in my book.

I'm not sure what is being argued here but Quebec doesn't have it's own Prime Minister, it has a Premier, like all the other provinces. I have not heard if they've discovered a motive for the Ottawa guy other than psychological.

In french, they're called prime ministers. as in provincial prime ministers.

I think that the three of them are religion motivated nutjobs but then, I think that most killers are somewhat nuts. The troubling details in these are the targets, hence the political recuperation that happens (or didn't in the case of Marois). You shouldn't be considered nuts if Jesus told you to do it but a terrorist if Allah did.

mastaflatch wrote:

doone wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:We're both the shooter and the driver in the other incident Qubecers? Maybe it's not Harper so much but that darned Anglo cultural hegemony.

Apparently the Ottawa guy once lived in Montreal - the driver was def a quebecer but both had become ISIS afficionados so I'm quite sure it had nothing to do with the french/anglo thing.

It must be remembered that a bit more than a year ago, some dude tried to shoot the then-newly-elected Quebec prime minister (the Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois, who was, incidentally, the first woman to hold this position here) but ended up killing a sound tech instead. His agenda was pretty clear - he was against francophones. Of course, that was not handled as a terrorism act. Federalist news outlets prefered to called the shooter "a troubled lover of the great Canada".

Harper did change Canada's role in world affairs, turning the traditionnally humanitarian role of the army into a completely biaised and belligerent organization. I don't mean to justify this week attacks but to see this as a surprise is pretty fucking naive.

Pointing to an insane shooter to support policy changes is a failing strategy. The attempted shooter of the Quebec Prime Minister claimed that Jesus told him to do so. I'd love a follow up article, fuck, I'd love to be wrong, but I'd wager he's just nuts. And damn it, scrolling through more than three Google pages makes it obscure in my book.

I'm not sure what is being argued here but Quebec doesn't have it's own Prime Minister, it has a Premier, like all the other provinces. I have not heard if they've discovered a motive for the Ottawa guy other than psychological.

In french, they're called prime ministers. as in provincial prime ministers.
.

Really? huh. So what do they call the actual Prime Minister?