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Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 2:02 pm
by stip
Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 2:10 pm
by stip
Johnny Guitar has some filthy playing to match the content, which is clever and unexpected in ways I never expected Pearl Jam to be. Great vocal melody from Eddie. I wish it was a bit longer, but it's a great song.
Unemployable means well, but it ends up a bit too shrill and unintentionally condescending, with an unforgivable pop sheen to Eddie's vocals that make them enjoyable to listen to. Music was pretty good, but still not as good as JG.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 3:07 pm
by epilogue
First really fucking tough match up this round. My gut says to go with Unemployable, so I'll do that. But I may end up changing my vote. Both of these songs are fantastic. Though, I did vote for Unemployable in its previous match and against JG in its previous match... so... yeah, Unemployable. For now.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 3:27 pm
by Simple Torture
I feel like both of these songs went further in the tournament than they probably should have.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 4:23 pm
by hlniv
Unemployable easily.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 4:28 pm
by B
Neither song gets me particularly excited, but I like Unemployable a little more.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 5:37 pm
by chewm
Unemployable, It's tied with parachutes as my favorite song from this division.
Johnny Guitar is alright but this is not close.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 6:25 pm
by PHATJ
Unemployable
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 6:31 pm
by darth_vedder
Unemployable I suppose. Like B, I'm not too excited about either, and the only time I listen to these songs is if they happen to come up on random.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 6:34 pm
by Kevin Davis
A fitting matchup -- two Matt Cameron songs via Eddie Vedder creative writing exercises that assume atypical, somewhat bizarre narrative voices. Both have that slight asymmetry, characteristic of Matt's songs, that really does it for me. But something about "Unemployable" feels kind of "faux-pious," though, as if the singer believes all working class people are simply an amalgam of the same "plainfolk" cliches. The song means well but Ed doesn't get to the heart of that character; he instead creates an archetype which ultimately feels more like condescension than empathy.
"Johnny Guitar" gets my vote, though I think "further north a warmth alive and lingering" is a gross lyric.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 6:41 pm
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:A fitting matchup -- two Matt Cameron songs via Eddie Vedder creative writing exercises that assume atypical, somewhat bizarre narrative voices. Both have that slight asymmetry, characteristic of Matt's songs, that really does it for me. But something about "Unemployable" feels kind of "faux-pious," though, as if the singer believes all working class people are simply an amalgam of the same "plainfolk" cliches. The song means well but he doesn't get to the heart of that character; he instead creates an archetype which ultimately feels more like condescension than empathy.
"Johnny Guitar" gets my vote, though I think "further north a warmth alive and lingering" is a gross lyric.
clever, though
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Mon March 02, 2015 8:32 pm
by LetMeSleep
Johnny Guitar. KD continues to make sense too. Although that lyric matches the song perfectly. And Ed's phrasing is splendid which is a recent rarity.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 12:37 am
by stip
LetMeSleep wrote:Johnny Guitar. KD continues to make sense too. Although that lyric matches the song perfectly. And Ed's phrasing is splendid which is a recent rarity.
I don't know, for the most part I think his phrasing has never been better. Which is good because it compensates for the vocal decline
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 10:54 am
by William Bloke
I've just discovered that I actually really like Unemployable.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 6:10 pm
by PHATJ
Varis wrote:I've just discovered that I actually really like Unemployable.

Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 6:22 pm
by epilogue
Unemployable is a fantastic song.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 7:57 pm
by digster
Kevin Davis wrote:
"Johnny Guitar" gets my vote, though I think "further north a warmth alive and lingering" is a gross lyric.
Agreed. Ick. I went for Unemployable, but I like them both. Both songs are in the top tier of the albums they're on.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 8:35 pm
by epilogue
digster wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:
"Johnny Guitar" gets my vote, though I think "further north a warmth alive and lingering" is a gross lyric.
Agreed. Ick. I went for Unemployable, but I like them both. Both songs are in the top tier of the albums they're on.
So funny, I think that's one of my favorite PRAMG Ed lines.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Tue March 03, 2015 9:55 pm
by chewm
I always say that Parachutes is my favorite post riot act song (and i might actually like it more than anything from it, as much as I like that album), but Unemployable is making me doubt about that.
Re: Division 4 Round 3as: Unemployable vs. Johnny Guitar
Posted: Wed March 04, 2015 1:25 pm
by Mike
I really love Unemployable.