Red Mosquito

I know the common saying is that "All records are made to be broken", but what are some that likely won't be?

I'll start.

NBA | Career Assists

I don't see how anyone will ever come anywhere close to John Stockton's almost 16,000. Because of free agency and the way sports work in general nowadays the likelihood of us seeing another Stockton/Malone-like pairing is basically zero. Two players, both of whom were relatively injury-free, in the same offense for 18 years. Chris Paul is currently the only NBA player likely to make it to 10,000 assists. He has about 7,000 but is currently 30 and injury prone and will probably struggle to make it to 12,000 or so. Paul lead the NBA last year with 838, John Stockton had 10 years with better assists totals than that and 7 years of over 1,000 assists. To average 10.5 assists per game over a 19-year career is just insane.

turned2black wrote:I know the common saying is that "All records are made to be broken", but what are some that likely won't be?

I'll start.

NBA | Career Assists

I don't see how anyone will ever come anywhere close to John Stockton's almost 16,000. Because of free agency and the way sports work in general nowadays the likelihood of us seeing another Stockton/Malone-like pairing is basically zero. Two players, both of whom were relatively injury-free, in the same offense for 18 years. Chris Paul is currently the only NBA player likely to make it to 10,000 assists. He has about 7,000 but is currently 30 and injury prone and will probably struggle to make it to 12,000 or so. Paul lead the NBA last year with 838, John Stockton had 10 years with better assists totals than that and 7 years of over 1,000 assists. To average 10.5 assists per game over a 19-year career is just insane.

Good example. As the game has changed and the trend of resting star players continues to increase I am inclined to agree with you.

2632 consecutive games played

Pretty much everything Wayne Gretzky.

NFL rushing record. There was an article on Grantland last week arguing that the days of 10,000-yard careers are over. I dunno if I'd go that far, but with the way pass-first offenses have come to dominate and the way RBs' careers have shrunk over the past 15 years, it'd be hard to see someone sniffing 15k much less 18k.

Cy Young's 511 MLB wins.

A pitcher winning 20 games for 25 years straight would still come up short.

EJ wrote:Cy Young's 511 MLB wins.

A pitcher winning 20 games for 25 years straight would still come up short.

Holy shit

How has he never won the Cy Young award?

Rickey Henderson's career stolen base record of 1406 and leadoff home runs of 81. Also probably his unintentional walks of 2,129, single season stolen bases of 130, and most career runs.

So basically any record Henderson holds now.

Barry Bonds with 688 IBB. Second place is Hank Aaron with 293.

cutuphalfdead wrote:How has he never won the Cy Young award?

probably because he also had 316 losses

oh wait..uh.

Simple Torture wrote:NFL rushing record. There was an article on Grantland last week arguing that the days of 10,000-yard careers are over. I dunno if I'd go that far, but with the way pass-first offenses have come to dominate and the way RBs' careers have shrunk over the past 15 years, it'd be hard to see someone sniffing 15k much less 18k.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but we're also only a couple of years removed from a 2K season, so I don't think we're there just yet.

Aaron Rodgers has thrown 512 straight passes at home without a pick. Considering that's over a whole season for many QBs I think it might be unassailable at this point.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

turned2black wrote:I know the common saying is that "All records are made to be broken", but what are some that likely won't be?

I'll start.

NBA | Career Assists

I don't see how anyone will ever come anywhere close to John Stockton's almost 16,000. Because of free agency and the way sports work in general nowadays the likelihood of us seeing another Stockton/Malone-like pairing is basically zero. Two players, both of whom were relatively injury-free, in the same offense for 18 years. Chris Paul is currently the only NBA player likely to make it to 10,000 assists. He has about 7,000 but is currently 30 and injury prone and will probably struggle to make it to 12,000 or so. Paul lead the NBA last year with 838, John Stockton had 10 years with better assists totals than that and 7 years of over 1,000 assists. To average 10.5 assists per game over a 19-year career is just insane.

Good example. As the game has changed and the trend of resting star players continues to increase I am inclined to agree with you.

I think over the coming years a lot of NBA records will fall. Guys come in so young and play forever now. That said the assists one probably won't. The shoot first point guard isn't going anywhere.

I doubt anyone will be able to touch Wilt's rebound record. Dude averaged almost 23 a game for his entire career. You can win the NBA rebound title these days averaging just 14 or so a game.

Fuck You Jobu wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:NFL rushing record. There was an article on Grantland last week arguing that the days of 10,000-yard careers are over. I dunno if I'd go that far, but with the way pass-first offenses have come to dominate and the way RBs' careers have shrunk over the past 15 years, it'd be hard to see someone sniffing 15k much less 18k.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but we're also only a couple of years removed from a 2K season, so I don't think we're there just yet.

True, but every member of the 2000-yard club had a tremendous drop the next year:

Dickerson - 900 yards (16/14)
Lewis - 1000 yards (16/12)
Peterson - 800 yards (16/14)
Sanders - 600 yards (16/16)
Davis - 1800 (16/4)
Johnson - 700 (16/16)
OJ - 900 (14/14)

All numbers approximate; in parentheses are the number of games in the 2000-yard season vs the next one. That kind of rushing wears you down, even more so theses days. I'd like to crunch theses numbers more (Include 1800+ yard rushers, look at total touches, yards per attempt, etc), but I stand by my initial assessment. Dickerson's record, on the other hand, could certainly fall.

Davis had a monstrous 4-game stretch though.

Orpheus wrote:Aaron Rodgers has thrown 512 straight passes at home without a pick. Considering that's over a whole season for many QBs I think it might be unassailable at this point.

spike wrote:

Orpheus wrote:Aaron Rodgers has thrown 512 straight passes at home without a pick. Considering that's over a whole season for many QBs I think it might be unassailable at this point.

Yeah but that's not like a big time well known record.

And it's going to end this year.