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Here's a different type of subject matter for this forum that I thought I'd mention, since I've become really fascinated with the subject recently.
How generations invariably show unique differences between each other, and how it effects life and society, is something that I've long shown a interest in the back of my mind, but never really took the effort until recently to take a closer look at it. There were a pair of authors that really clarified a lot of stuff for me. William Strauss and Neil Howe developed a real cool theory positing that traits of both generations and history are cyclical. They first set their theory out in a book entitled Generations in 1991, but really refined the theory into a smaller book called The Fourth Turning.
Bascially, they break both generations and historical periods into four categories each, and note that how much in common historical events and generations have with each other around 80 years apart. Being a history buff, I know well how it can repeat itself, and seeing it through this generational lens has really been eye-opening. It's made a lot of sense to me, since most of the people who are experiencing today's current events weren't alive to experience similar events of the past. Examples include how our current recession lines up with the Great Depression, how modern day culture war items like gay marriage can be comparable with debates like Prohibition in the early 20th, or how the mood of the 1960s was much like the "Great Awakenings" of earlier American history. It's also helped me understand how people like, say, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush can be so different politically and personally, yet really show quite similar generational traits.
Here's some links to explain it in more detail.
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/ ... nings.html
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/ ... types.html
4/5, I think you in particular would really enjoy this, and I'd say the same to punkdavid if he still posted here.
Nonetheless, this doesn't have to be a strictly historical talk--I'd be interested in hearing what people's generational backgrounds are, and how it shaped them. I think it's safe to say that, given that this board is dedicated to a defining band of Generation X, that most of us on here are Xers, with some early wave Millennials sprinkled in for good measure. Being born in 1980 I'm pretty close to the cusp of both, so I've always felt a bit confused as whether I hold more in common with my older or younger peers. The Strauss/Howe books have clarified some of that confusion for me.
How generations invariably show unique differences between each other, and how it effects life and society, is something that I've long shown a interest in the back of my mind, but never really took the effort until recently to take a closer look at it. There were a pair of authors that really clarified a lot of stuff for me. William Strauss and Neil Howe developed a real cool theory positing that traits of both generations and history are cyclical. They first set their theory out in a book entitled Generations in 1991, but really refined the theory into a smaller book called The Fourth Turning.
Bascially, they break both generations and historical periods into four categories each, and note that how much in common historical events and generations have with each other around 80 years apart. Being a history buff, I know well how it can repeat itself, and seeing it through this generational lens has really been eye-opening. It's made a lot of sense to me, since most of the people who are experiencing today's current events weren't alive to experience similar events of the past. Examples include how our current recession lines up with the Great Depression, how modern day culture war items like gay marriage can be comparable with debates like Prohibition in the early 20th, or how the mood of the 1960s was much like the "Great Awakenings" of earlier American history. It's also helped me understand how people like, say, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush can be so different politically and personally, yet really show quite similar generational traits.
Here's some links to explain it in more detail.
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/ ... nings.html
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/ ... types.html
4/5, I think you in particular would really enjoy this, and I'd say the same to punkdavid if he still posted here.
Nonetheless, this doesn't have to be a strictly historical talk--I'd be interested in hearing what people's generational backgrounds are, and how it shaped them. I think it's safe to say that, given that this board is dedicated to a defining band of Generation X, that most of us on here are Xers, with some early wave Millennials sprinkled in for good measure. Being born in 1980 I'm pretty close to the cusp of both, so I've always felt a bit confused as whether I hold more in common with my older or younger peers. The Strauss/Howe books have clarified some of that confusion for me.
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I don't know what to think of their conclusions, but it is certainly a fascinating idea. I'm struggling a bit with the cause/effect elements inherent to such a discussion, but I'm intrigued enough to keep reading.
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How are you describing "cause/effect elements"?4/5 wrote:I don't know what to think of their conclusions, but it is certainly a fascinating idea. I'm struggling a bit with the cause/effect elements inherent to such a discussion, but I'm intrigued enough to keep reading.
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Here's the quote I had in mind:Green Habit wrote:How are you describing "cause/effect elements"?4/5 wrote:I don't know what to think of their conclusions, but it is certainly a fascinating idea. I'm struggling a bit with the cause/effect elements inherent to such a discussion, but I'm intrigued enough to keep reading.
This seems to make the cause/effect relationship clear: "A spark" will lead to the next generational mood. But is that always the case? Event-->mood? Or can it be the other way around? If the event is always the impetus for the next "mood" then are there really distinct "generational moods," or would every generation really react similarly if given the same stimuli? I guess I'm hung up on a chicken/egg sort of thing.But Strauss and Howe forecast that, sometime in the middle or end of the 2000–2010 decade, “a spark will ignite a new mood” of national urgency. “The spark,” they predicted, “might be as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party,” and it would set off a chain reaction of further emergencies rooted in “debt, civic decay, and global disorder.”
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Ah, I see. I could see it being a combination of both--events that shape moods, or moods (either active or dormant) shaping events. Definitely good to think about it more.4/5 wrote:Here's the quote I had in mind:Green Habit wrote:How are you describing "cause/effect elements"?4/5 wrote:I don't know what to think of their conclusions, but it is certainly a fascinating idea. I'm struggling a bit with the cause/effect elements inherent to such a discussion, but I'm intrigued enough to keep reading.This seems to make the cause/effect relationship clear: "A spark" will lead to the next generational mood. But is that always the case? Event-->mood? Or can it be the other way around? If the event is always the impetus for the next "mood" then are there really distinct "generational moods," or would every generation really react similarly if given the same stimuli? I guess I'm hung up on a chicken/egg sort of thing.But Strauss and Howe forecast that, sometime in the middle or end of the 2000–2010 decade, “a spark will ignite a new mood” of national urgency. “The spark,” they predicted, “might be as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party,” and it would set off a chain reaction of further emergencies rooted in “debt, civic decay, and global disorder.”
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I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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Thanks to the sacrifices of public sector unions, states and localities across the country are on sound financial footing. Oh wait.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
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Don't tell me. Public spending is responsible for the global financial crash?simple schoolboy wrote:Thanks to the sacrifices of public sector unions, states and localities across the country are on sound financial footing. Oh wait.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
As for public sector unions, really that's just a form of extortion. When you are the sole source for a required service by government decree, striking is extortion.
Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
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It is a sacrifice, if you feel otherwise donate a days pay to charity. Half the time, public sector workers are striking against an attack on public services.surfndestroy wrote:Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
As for public sector unions, really that's just a form of extortion. When you are the sole source for a required service by government decree, striking is extortion.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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An 'attack' on public services rendered necessary by their generous and underfunded pensions? Perhaps due to our different locations we have different experiences with public versus private sector unions, but I don't particularly care for increased taxes while anticipating reduced services.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:It is a sacrifice, if you feel otherwise donate a days pay to charity. Half the time, public sector workers are striking against an attack on public services.surfndestroy wrote:Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
As for public sector unions, really that's just a form of extortion. When you are the sole source for a required service by government decree, striking is extortion.
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Sure but what does that have to do with not getting paid for not going into work. If you're going to try and argue your point, try to be truthful. They are really spending a day's pay on contract negotiations and then acting like martyrs and that they're doing it for the public good.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:It is a sacrifice, if you feel otherwise donate a days pay to charity.surfndestroy wrote:Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
As for public sector unions, really that's just a form of extortion. When you are the sole source for a required service by government decree, striking is extortion.
Oh, those noble savages. I'm pretty sure it's up to the elected officials to decide what the public services are to be. But thanks for tryng to to work around the democratic process.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:Half the time, public sector workers are striking against an attack on public services.
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Sure it is. But I say that from a semantics perspective, not an ideological one.surfndestroy wrote:Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.
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It's not a sacrifice because they expect to be better off in the long run for having done it. They're trading a day's wages for more than that in the future, I see no sacrifice.4/5 wrote:Sure it is. But I say that from a semantics perspective, not an ideological one.surfndestroy wrote:Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.
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We can't go on like this. I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS.surfndestroy wrote:Sure but what does that have to do with not getting paid for not going into work. If you're going to try and argue your point, try to be truthful. They are really spending a day's pay on contract negotiations and then acting like martyrs and that they're doing it for the public good.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:It is a sacrifice, if you feel otherwise donate a days pay to charity.surfndestroy wrote:Not going into work and not getting paid is not a sacrifice.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:I'm 30 and I think most of my generation are wilfully ignorant of the sacrifices that previous generations have made for them and the rights they have today as a result, especially unions and strikers.
As for public sector unions, really that's just a form of extortion. When you are the sole source for a required service by government decree, striking is extortion.Oh, those noble savages. I'm pretty sure it's up to the elected officials to decide what the public services are to be. But thanks for tryng to to work around the democratic process.Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:Half the time, public sector workers are striking against an attack on public services.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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Not sure if this should have had its own thread or not, but I think reading S&H really is what led me to this bold hypothesis that I'm going to make: in about 50 years, there may very well not be a "Hispanic" "race" in the United States. Think about all the immigration from the early 20th century, and how common all of the [European ancestry]-American descriptors were. Those are now a relic of time. Perhaps the same could be true in the aftermath of all of the immigration from Latin America in the 1980s-2000s.
http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2 ... -identity/
The future of Hispanic identity
By Reihan Salam May 6, 2013
In an interview with ABC News this past weekend, Bill Richardson, the former governor of New Mexico and a veteran of the Clinton White House, shared his thoughts on Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican from Texas who has been gaining prominence as a staunch, and sometimes strident, conservative voice. Though Richardson acknowledged that Cruz is “articulate,” he accused the Texas senator of having introduced “a measure of incivility in the political process.” When asked if Cruz “represents most Hispanics with his politics,” Richardson replied that because Cruz is anti-immigration, “I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic.”
Regardless of Richardson’s true meaning, he hit a nerve. Bill Richardson and Ted Cruz are both entitled to define themselves as Hispanics, as both have roots in Spanish-speaking countries. Yet both men, like a large and growing number of Hispanics, are of mixed parentage. Richardson is the son of a father who was half-Anglo-American and half-Mexican and a Mexican mother. Ted Cruz is the son of an Irish-American mother and a Cuban immigrant father. And so the Richardson-Cruz kerfuffle gives us an opportunity to think about the future of Hispanic identity.
As of the 2010 Census, Hispanics represented 16.3 percent of the total U.S. population. And in the decades to come, the Census Bureau projects that the Hispanic share of the U.S. population will increase dramatically, from just under one American in six to just under one in three.
But there is a small complication with these numbers. The Census Bureau relies on individuals to self-identify with a given ethnic category. We now know, however, that many individuals who could identify as Hispanic, by virtue of a parent or grandparent born in a Spanish-speaking country, choose not to do so. In recent years, Brian Duncan, an economist at the University of Colorado Denver, and Stephen Trejo, an economist at the University of Texas at Austin, have been studying this “ethnic attrition rate” among U.S. immigrants and their descendants. And their findings suggest that while a given generation of Americans might identify as Hispanic, there is a decent chance that their children will not.
To understand Duncan and Trejo’s findings, it helps to first understand that assimilation is a multi-generational process. The first immigrant generation, which consists of foreign-born individuals, is almost by definition less assimilated than those that follow. Members of the second, which consists of native-born individuals with at least one foreign-born parent, tend to have higher levels of English language proficiency and educational attainment than members of the first, and more friendships and relationships outside of their parents’ ethnic community. The third generation, which consists of native-born individuals with two native-born parents and at least one foreign-born grandparent, is commonly expected to be more assimilated still. Duncan and Trejo draw on data from the Current Population Survey, gathered between 1994 and 2000, to explore how Americans across immigrant generations describe their ethnic identity.
For example, while virtually all third-generation Mexican-Americans with three or four Mexican-born grandparents identify as being of Mexican descent, Duncan and Trejo observe that only 79 percent of those with two Mexican-born grandparents do the same. For those with only one Mexican-born grandparent, the share falls to 58 percent.
Only 17 percent of third-generation Mexican-Americans have three or four Mexican-born grandparents, so the ethnic attrition rate is quite high: 30 percent of Americans with at least one Mexican-born grandparent do not identify as being of Mexican descent. It appears, according to Duncan and Trejo, that the educational attainment of Mexican-Americans who don’t identify as Mexican is higher than for those who do.
This suggests that when we measure life outcomes for third-generation Mexican-Americans, we might be biasing the results by relying on self-identification and thus failing to include large numbers of individuals with at least one Mexican-born grandparent.
Duncan and Trejo have studied a number of other ethnic groups as well, and they find that intermarriage has an enormous impact on ethnic identification for the descendants of all immigrants, not just those of Mexican origin. Among second-generation Indian-Americans, 63 percent have two Indian-born parents. Within this subgroup, 86 percent identify as Asian.
But within the subgroup of second-generation Indian-Americans with only one Indian-born parent, only 26 percent identify as Asian. Salvadoran-Americans have a much higher intermarriage rate, and so only 13 percent of second-generation Salvadoran-Americans have two Salvadoran-born parents and 76 percent of these Salvadoran-Americans identify as Hispanic. But Hispanic identification among second-generation Salvadoran-Americans with only one Salvadoran-born parent is a mere 14 percent.
And by the time we reach the third generation, ethnic attrition appears to skyrocket. Almost 80 percent of third-generation Mexican-Americans and Puerto Ricans have no more than two grandparents born in Mexico or Puerto Rico respectively. The same is true of 90 percent of third-generation Americans of Cuban, Dominican, Chinese, and Filipino ancestry. Given that ethnic attrition tends to rise as the number of grandparents born in the relevant source country falls, these numbers don’t bode well for Hispanic or Asian self-identification.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that the children of second-generation Americans like Bill Richardson and Ted Cruz won’t define themselves as Hispanic. Ethnic attrition rates could fall over time. Hispanic identity is already gaining in prominence and prestige, and there is good reason to believe that this trend will continue. It is also possible, however, that Hispanic identity will lose its salience as the children and grandchildren of Richardson and Ted Cruz, the products of generations of intermarriage, grow culturally indistinguishable from Americans who embrace Anglo identity. Pretty soon we might find the idea of Bill Richardson suggesting that Ted Cruz isn’t Hispanic enough faintly ridiculous. Indeed, that day may have already come.
http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2 ... -identity/
The future of Hispanic identity
By Reihan Salam May 6, 2013
In an interview with ABC News this past weekend, Bill Richardson, the former governor of New Mexico and a veteran of the Clinton White House, shared his thoughts on Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican from Texas who has been gaining prominence as a staunch, and sometimes strident, conservative voice. Though Richardson acknowledged that Cruz is “articulate,” he accused the Texas senator of having introduced “a measure of incivility in the political process.” When asked if Cruz “represents most Hispanics with his politics,” Richardson replied that because Cruz is anti-immigration, “I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic.”
Regardless of Richardson’s true meaning, he hit a nerve. Bill Richardson and Ted Cruz are both entitled to define themselves as Hispanics, as both have roots in Spanish-speaking countries. Yet both men, like a large and growing number of Hispanics, are of mixed parentage. Richardson is the son of a father who was half-Anglo-American and half-Mexican and a Mexican mother. Ted Cruz is the son of an Irish-American mother and a Cuban immigrant father. And so the Richardson-Cruz kerfuffle gives us an opportunity to think about the future of Hispanic identity.
As of the 2010 Census, Hispanics represented 16.3 percent of the total U.S. population. And in the decades to come, the Census Bureau projects that the Hispanic share of the U.S. population will increase dramatically, from just under one American in six to just under one in three.
But there is a small complication with these numbers. The Census Bureau relies on individuals to self-identify with a given ethnic category. We now know, however, that many individuals who could identify as Hispanic, by virtue of a parent or grandparent born in a Spanish-speaking country, choose not to do so. In recent years, Brian Duncan, an economist at the University of Colorado Denver, and Stephen Trejo, an economist at the University of Texas at Austin, have been studying this “ethnic attrition rate” among U.S. immigrants and their descendants. And their findings suggest that while a given generation of Americans might identify as Hispanic, there is a decent chance that their children will not.
To understand Duncan and Trejo’s findings, it helps to first understand that assimilation is a multi-generational process. The first immigrant generation, which consists of foreign-born individuals, is almost by definition less assimilated than those that follow. Members of the second, which consists of native-born individuals with at least one foreign-born parent, tend to have higher levels of English language proficiency and educational attainment than members of the first, and more friendships and relationships outside of their parents’ ethnic community. The third generation, which consists of native-born individuals with two native-born parents and at least one foreign-born grandparent, is commonly expected to be more assimilated still. Duncan and Trejo draw on data from the Current Population Survey, gathered between 1994 and 2000, to explore how Americans across immigrant generations describe their ethnic identity.
For example, while virtually all third-generation Mexican-Americans with three or four Mexican-born grandparents identify as being of Mexican descent, Duncan and Trejo observe that only 79 percent of those with two Mexican-born grandparents do the same. For those with only one Mexican-born grandparent, the share falls to 58 percent.
Only 17 percent of third-generation Mexican-Americans have three or four Mexican-born grandparents, so the ethnic attrition rate is quite high: 30 percent of Americans with at least one Mexican-born grandparent do not identify as being of Mexican descent. It appears, according to Duncan and Trejo, that the educational attainment of Mexican-Americans who don’t identify as Mexican is higher than for those who do.
This suggests that when we measure life outcomes for third-generation Mexican-Americans, we might be biasing the results by relying on self-identification and thus failing to include large numbers of individuals with at least one Mexican-born grandparent.
Duncan and Trejo have studied a number of other ethnic groups as well, and they find that intermarriage has an enormous impact on ethnic identification for the descendants of all immigrants, not just those of Mexican origin. Among second-generation Indian-Americans, 63 percent have two Indian-born parents. Within this subgroup, 86 percent identify as Asian.
But within the subgroup of second-generation Indian-Americans with only one Indian-born parent, only 26 percent identify as Asian. Salvadoran-Americans have a much higher intermarriage rate, and so only 13 percent of second-generation Salvadoran-Americans have two Salvadoran-born parents and 76 percent of these Salvadoran-Americans identify as Hispanic. But Hispanic identification among second-generation Salvadoran-Americans with only one Salvadoran-born parent is a mere 14 percent.
And by the time we reach the third generation, ethnic attrition appears to skyrocket. Almost 80 percent of third-generation Mexican-Americans and Puerto Ricans have no more than two grandparents born in Mexico or Puerto Rico respectively. The same is true of 90 percent of third-generation Americans of Cuban, Dominican, Chinese, and Filipino ancestry. Given that ethnic attrition tends to rise as the number of grandparents born in the relevant source country falls, these numbers don’t bode well for Hispanic or Asian self-identification.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that the children of second-generation Americans like Bill Richardson and Ted Cruz won’t define themselves as Hispanic. Ethnic attrition rates could fall over time. Hispanic identity is already gaining in prominence and prestige, and there is good reason to believe that this trend will continue. It is also possible, however, that Hispanic identity will lose its salience as the children and grandchildren of Richardson and Ted Cruz, the products of generations of intermarriage, grow culturally indistinguishable from Americans who embrace Anglo identity. Pretty soon we might find the idea of Bill Richardson suggesting that Ted Cruz isn’t Hispanic enough faintly ridiculous. Indeed, that day may have already come.
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Moving this discussion over here given the relevance....malice wrote:I'm sure you're right about that - I was mainly trying to clarify that gen-x has typically been defined as generation 'X' because we were directly after the boomers, and there aren't a lot of us, so we have very little 'voice' in the world - lower numbers make us less attractive as a generation because we can't exert the kind of influence over the direction of the world as either the boomers or the millennials. (gen-x is a lost or unknown generation.)Green Habit wrote:They gave birth to both--mostly the people on the Xer/Millennial cusp--like me. Once I finally understood this, it really cleared things up for me since I never felt wholly comfortable with either generation.malice wrote:baby boomer didn't have gen-x kids. they had gen y kids.
I do agree with you that Gen X is most likely the most screwed generation out of the main three living right now.
gen-y/millennials are named as such because they they came after us slackers, and have a ton of advantages due to being the off-spring of the boomers.
and if it makes you feel any better about your own situation in the generational spread - I'm in something of a unique position as well - not due to when I was born, but due to being born from parents who raised all boomers, until me. so I have a lot of affinity with the boomers' slant on life, but largely rejected it as I got into my 20s - i see how the boomers have developed as a generation and how the gen-xers have fared as well and there's some benefits to both, it's a tight-rope walk way to view yourself...
In the system that Strauss & Howe devised that I mentioned earlier in here, they compare Gen X to the Lost Generation, and the comparisons are indeed quite apt. One thing that they did mention about size is that also Xers were part of a baby bust, they have made up for it via immigration, just like the Lost Generation did. Of course, some of most prominent Xer leaders now are the likes of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz....
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hey Nick - I've booked marked to the links you included in your first post to read through (they look interesting upon quick scan) but this thread reminded me of an article I read in 1990 from Time magazine (before it disintegrated into an even less than appealing version of People magazine, I think) - and I wanted to post it here.
it's the first article I'd read about generation x - ever. makes sense since 1990 was around the time my generation was reaching for a tenuous hold on adulthood, and the brief period of time we had any relevance to the culture at large.
I remember feeling awestruck at reading it - it may not have been 100% of my experience, but it definitely rang more than one bell in my head - the familiarity of the sentiment being expressed at the time both from my generation and about my generation.
apologies for posting the whole article here - I'd tracked it down a few years ago online and copied it to my PC so have the full version - the article still exists at this link below, but looks like you have to subscribe to Time now to read it - and I wouldn't ask that of anyone, ever.
(too bad, really. Time used to be at least tolerable as a magazine. no more)
anyway - hope it's worth a look for you and anyone interested.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/a ... 34,00.html
it's the first article I'd read about generation x - ever. makes sense since 1990 was around the time my generation was reaching for a tenuous hold on adulthood, and the brief period of time we had any relevance to the culture at large.
I remember feeling awestruck at reading it - it may not have been 100% of my experience, but it definitely rang more than one bell in my head - the familiarity of the sentiment being expressed at the time both from my generation and about my generation.
apologies for posting the whole article here - I'd tracked it down a few years ago online and copied it to my PC so have the full version - the article still exists at this link below, but looks like you have to subscribe to Time now to read it - and I wouldn't ask that of anyone, ever.
(too bad, really. Time used to be at least tolerable as a magazine. no more)
anyway - hope it's worth a look for you and anyone interested.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/a ... 34,00.html
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You would not believe how bummed out I am that Steve Bannon is trying to use one of my favorite books for ill purposes.
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