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Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready Stomp

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 12:12 pm
by stip
Vote for your favorite:

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 12:28 pm
by stip
For some reason Johnny Guitar always reminds me a bit of dire straits in its playfulness. I can't fully explain why. But it is clever and profane and just a little bit filthy and there's not much like it in their catalog. One of the things Eddie doesn't get enough credit for on the last two albums is really growing with his ability to deliver on more complicated vocal melodies, and this is a great example.

Hard to Imagine is a nice song. It really comes into its own live, but the studio versions always felt a bit incomplete.


Cready Stomp is what it is.

Johnny Guitar.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:46 pm
by epilogue
Hard to Imagine.

Top 5 PJ verses a song that's better because of the stuff that surrounds it on the album versus a castoff nothing fart noise.

No contest.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:49 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
I LOVE Johnny Guitar but cant quite pick it over Hard to Imagine

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:54 pm
by epilogue
Yeah, I love Johnny Guitar too. I feel bad about what I said in my previous post. It's a really good song.

Still, Hard to Imagine is one of my all time favorite songs by any band.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:54 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
JG is one of only two I like from Backspacer, but not that much.

HTI by far.



Cready Stomp makes me think of bodysnatcher for some reason. I have no idea why.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:56 pm
by Strat
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:I LOVE Johnny Guitar but cant quite pick it over Hard to Imagine

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:56 pm
by Strat
E.H. Ruddock wrote:JG is one of only two I like from Backspacer, but not that much.

HTI by far.



Cready Stomp makes me think of bodysnatcher for some reason. I have no idea why.
McCready shits a lot. Bodysnatcher....

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:57 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Cready Stomp makes me think of bodysnatcher for some reason. I have no idea why.
:shock:

I feel the same way! What's that about?

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:57 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:JG is one of only two I like from Backspacer, but not that much.

HTI by far.



Cready Stomp makes me think of bodysnatcher for some reason. I have no idea why.
McCready shits a lot. Bodysnatcher....
:hooray:

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:58 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Cready Stomp makes me think of bodysnatcher for some reason. I have no idea why.
:shock:

I feel the same way! What's that about?
lol strat.

But I think he made a funny joke about that song somewhere in PJ chat. We need more of that guy, he's so funny.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:58 pm
by Strat
bodysnatcher is the best rmer ever

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 2:59 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:bodysnatcher is the best rmer ever
I wouldn't argue against that.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 3:02 pm
by tragabigzanda
Hard to Imagine is fine, but it doesn't offer anything that a bunch of other songs don't do better.
I'll echo Stip's points re: Johnny Guitar, and add that it's one of the few times in the PRAMG era that the band sounds energized and fully engaged in composing something fresh and interesting.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 3:57 pm
by epilogue
Speaking of bothersome Edward Vedder vocals, Stip, I really hate the way he sings "I hide my disappointment." Blech. He sounds so much like an old dad trying to sound like a young rock-n-roller.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 3:59 pm
by WaitingForBluey
Ok, this is where I begin my Johnny Guitar campaign. If there is any Backspacer song that's worthy of the 64 song tournament, it's this one. HTI is definitely a solid song and always a fun one to hear live, but JG is their BEST post-RA song. Period.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 4:01 pm
by epilogue
I'm not sure I'd put Johnny Guitar in the top 10 Post-RA songs, actually.

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 4:04 pm
by WaitingForBluey
durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not sure I'd put Johnny Guitar in the top 10 Post-RA songs, actually.
Parachutes
Army Reserve
Johnny Guitar
My Father's Son
Swallowed Whole

That would be my top 5 in some order

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 4:09 pm
by stip
durdencommatyler wrote:Speaking of bothersome Edward Vedder vocals, Stip, I really hate the way he sings "I hide my disappointment." Blech. He sounds so much like an old dad trying to sound like a young rock-n-roller.
That's kind of what the song is poking fun of, in a way. But you're right, that particular delivery is not a highlight

Re: Round 1F: Hard to Imagine vs. Johnny Guitar vs. Cready S

Posted: Thu February 11, 2016 4:13 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Speaking of bothersome Edward Vedder vocals, Stip, I really hate the way he sings "I hide my disappointment." Blech. He sounds so much like an old dad trying to sound like a young rock-n-roller.
That's kind of what the song is poking fun of, in a way. But you're right, that particular delivery is not a highlight
Is it, though? I've never heard/read the song as making fun of creepy lame dad trying to recapture nonexistent rock and roll glory/youth. That's an interesting take.