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II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:18 pm
by stip
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Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:21 pm
by stip
Rats by a wide margin, though there are plenty of songs that got eliminated I would have taken over either

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:31 pm
by PHATJ
These are both mid level PJ songs for me. I think I like In Hiding a little better.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:33 pm
by Bammer
RATS HAS A MICHAEL JACKSON REFERENCE AND IT DESERVES YOUR VOTE

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:34 pm
by ABNorman
Easily In Hiding for me.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:35 pm
by PHATJ
Bammer wrote:RATS HAS A MICHAEL JACKSON REFERENCE
Who gives a shit? In Hiding has Single Video Theory.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 2:38 pm
by chewm
In Hiding and this is the easiest match on the whole tournament.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 3:10 pm
by Kevin Davis
"In Hiding" is one of Stone's finest musical contributions to Pearl Jam -- it's astonishing how he manages to stake out such a singular emotional space using simple variations on and suspensions of basic major chords. I'm no fan of Eddie in Deepak Chopra mode and "In Hiding" is probably his worst offense on "Yield," but it's not enough to drive me to vote for the gangly alterna-monkey-funk that is "Rats."

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 3:40 pm
by darth_vedder
Love the funkiness of Rats. It's always been a favorite of mine from Vs.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 4:46 pm
by evenslow
Stone wrote so many cool little guitar parts for In Hiding. Nice restrained playing, on the money use of piano, Jack's drum fills are fucking killer, that sweet sweet Yield production, etc.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 5:22 pm
by digster
In Hiding. The lyrics on this one never bothered me too much; they just act as a simple story, not trying to do more than they say. I still don't know what "I swallowed my face to keep from biting" means, but it wouldn't be a PJ lyric if there weren't a few muffed lines along the way.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Wed February 17, 2016 8:31 pm
by Birds in Hell
Kevin Davis wrote:gangly alterna-monkey-funk
Haha, perfect - and it's Rats for me.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 1:30 am
by LetMeSleep
Both are good songs that I enjoy. Rats is Dave and Jeff at their finest though and it gets Stone in the groove.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 3:56 am
by thesound
Both are great songs. I love Yield - the tone, the production, the whole band firing..... but I love the funky groove of Rats.

In Hiding is probably the better song and I'm probably more likely to listen to it... but I might throw some food to the Rats!

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 1:59 pm
by WaitingForBluey
C'mon folks... RATS is Pearl Jam at their best. Remember when these guys used to enjoy just jamming together? Stone's actually having fun in this song.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 3:14 pm
by Kevin Davis
Am I the only one who feels like the "groove"/"funk" element of early Pearl Jam is kind of overstated?

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 3:28 pm
by stip
it's definitely more prevalent there then on later records but it hardly defines the sound.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 3:33 pm
by EJ
Kevin Davis wrote:Am I the only one who feels like the "groove"/"funk" element of early Pearl Jam is kind of overstated?
During their initial breakthrough, it certainly felt like they had quite a bit of that groove/funk element to their music. But, looking back now, it was probably more related to Jeff's hats.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 7:18 pm
by evenslow
The "groove/funk" thing has a lot to do with Dave A's playing.

But also Stone was bringing it with the funky riffs on those first two records.
Evenflow (so funky Prince covered it)
Animal
Blood
Rats

Ya know, rhythmic things that butt up against each other.

After that though, Ed comes more to the forefront and things got punkier for Vitalogy.

Re: II-4 Rats v In Hiding

Posted: Thu February 18, 2016 7:22 pm
by darth_vedder
bluestate wrote:C'mon folks... RATS is Pearl Jam at their best. Remember when these guys used to enjoy just jamming together? Stone's actually having fun in this song.
I don't if it's PJ at their best, but it is a really good song (and fun).