I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:51 pm
by mikejasond
I mean it seems like he has been a creative force for the cooler (earlier) songs, and his musical influence is definitely something that I would not want to remove from Pearl Jam.
But does anybody sometimes feel like when it comes time to perform live they should just give him an unplugged guitar and let him blissfully strum away like your 3-year-old cousin when you let him "play" your video games?
I was listening to the 5/10/00 boot today and man he was making a mess of things. At least I think it was him. Somebody's distorted guitar was awkwardly stumbling all over the parts.
I will say I haven't noticed this on recent boots so maybe he's gotten better
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:52 pm
by evenslow
Would you go so far as to say you're Stone's Bitch?
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:53 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I respect Mr. Stone and his work god bless
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:54 pm
by evenslow
Also, I don't know about your 3 year old cousin, but mine couldn't come up with Anchors.
In fact, he'd probably just shit his pants and cry about it.
You might want to compare your 3 year old cousin to Mike instead.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:55 pm
by mikejasond
evenslow wrote:Also, I don't know about your 3 year old cousin, but mine couldn't come up with Anchors.
In fact, he'd probably just shit his pants and cry about it.
You might want to compare your 3 year old cousin to Mike instead.
I edited my post for clarity of metaphor. I left out vital information
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:56 pm
by mikejasond
evenslow wrote:Also, I don't know about your 3 year old cousin, but mine couldn't come up with Anchors.
In fact, he'd probably just shit his pants and cry about it.
You might want to compare your 3 year old cousin to Mike instead.
Again this is my predicament. Stone seems to have great creative influences but live he is less than impressive.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:06 pm
by bodysnatcher
respect stone or gtfo
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:13 pm
by epilogue
bodysnatcher wrote:respect stone or gtfo
aw huh
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:28 pm
by Kevin Davis
Have you noticed any instances of this besides this one show that you listened to today?
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:31 pm
by Leatherhead
This seems really wrong. Stone's pretty great.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:31 pm
by mikejasond
I used to think this on pj radio boots all the time but lately I haven't noticed. Now I noticed again. Maybe it's just old boots.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:32 pm
by darth_vedder
I like Stone live. He is into it when he needs to be, and sometimes seems to do his own thing. Here is my write up from Philly 2 of this tour:
5. Stone. It was fun to watch him. He's in his own little world isn't he? At one point, before RVM, they were gonna play Betterman. The tech brought Stone's acoustic out, then the band kicked into RVM. Stone looked confused, then shrugged his shoulders, handed the acoustic back, got the electric, but before he started playing, he had to blow his nose. After that he took a few swigs of beer, then joined in with the band towards the end of the first verse.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:43 pm
by Norah
mikey jay, watch this:
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:45 pm
by bodysnatcher
darth_vedder wrote:I like Stone live. He is into it when he needs to be, and sometimes seems to do his own thing. Here is my write up from Philly 2 of this tour:
5. Stone. It was fun to watch him. He's in his own little world isn't he? At one point, before RVM, they were gonna play Betterman. The tech brought Stone's acoustic out, then the band kicked into RVM. Stone looked confused, then shrugged his shoulders, handed the acoustic back, got the electric, but before he started playing, he had to blow his nose. After that he took a few swigs of beer, then joined in with the band towards the end of the first verse.
Stone rules so hard
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:18 pm
by evenslow
bodysnatcher wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:I like Stone live. He is into it when he needs to be, and sometimes seems to do his own thing. Here is my write up from Philly 2 of this tour:
5. Stone. It was fun to watch him. He's in his own little world isn't he? At one point, before RVM, they were gonna play Betterman. The tech brought Stone's acoustic out, then the band kicked into RVM. Stone looked confused, then shrugged his shoulders, handed the acoustic back, got the electric, but before he started playing, he had to blow his nose. After that he took a few swigs of beer, then joined in with the band towards the end of the first verse.
Stone rules so hard
BOSSMAN
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:25 pm
by Birds in Hell
Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:34 pm
by bodysnatcher
evenslow wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:I like Stone live. He is into it when he needs to be, and sometimes seems to do his own thing. Here is my write up from Philly 2 of this tour:
5. Stone. It was fun to watch him. He's in his own little world isn't he? At one point, before RVM, they were gonna play Betterman. The tech brought Stone's acoustic out, then the band kicked into RVM. Stone looked confused, then shrugged his shoulders, handed the acoustic back, got the electric, but before he started playing, he had to blow his nose. After that he took a few swigs of beer, then joined in with the band towards the end of the first verse.
Stone rules so hard
BOSSMAN
Stone is definitely the dad of the band
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:49 pm
by digster
Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.
Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:07 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
digster wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.
Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.
There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.
Re: I respect Stone's songwriting contributions to this band
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:13 am
by digster
Agreed, though I've seen that from each member. I wonder how many things are getting sacrificed for speed.