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And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 11:40 am
by stip
And Maggie Makes Three


While the family is browsing through the family photo album, Lisa notices that there are no baby pictures of Maggie at all. Homer explains by recounting the story of Maggie's birth. In 1993, Homer hated working at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant, and had a dream of working at a bowling alley. After he received a paycheck that cleared him of all his debts, he happily quit his job at the power plant, and went to get a job at the local bowling alley owned by Barney Gumble's uncle Al.

When Homer and Marge celebrated this development with sex, she became pregnant. In the meantime, Homer did an excellent job working at the bowling alley, and got treated well by the staff and customers as a result. Meanwhile, upon learning of her pregnancy, Marge feared that the news would end Homer's new lifestyle and happiness, because it meant he could no longer support his family on his bowling alley salary. Marge kept her pregnancy a secret as long as she could, but Patty and Selma, eager to ruin Homer's life, spread the news quickly around town. As a result, several people congratulated Homer, who was unaware of Marge's pregnancy until a baby shower was given to Marge back at the Simpson residence.

Realizing the truth, Homer became very unhappy and completely unenthusiastic about it. On Marge's advice, he attempted to get a raise on his salary to alleviate his problem, but Al stated that the alley can't do enough to make that much money unless the business was expanded. Homer then attempted to expand the business by using a shotgun to attract more customers, but this failed. Due to the financial problems caused by the pregnancy, Homer was forced to quit his job at the bowling alley and go back to the power plant. However, Mr. Burns made Homer beg for his job back, and in an attempt to break what is left of Homer's spirit as punishment for quitting his job earlier, he placed a large plaque in front of Homer's desk reading: "Don't forget: you're here forever". Homer was once again unhappy at his work, but as with all the Simpson children, when Maggie was born, Homer instantly fell in love with her. Back in the present, Bart and Lisa still do not understand what that has to do with Maggie's photos. Homer merely mentions that they are in the place where he needs them the most. The scene then cuts to his workplace where all of the photos of Maggie are positioned on the plaque on the wall, which now reads: "Do it for her".

Homer's Phobia

Needing money to pay for a repair after Bart damages the gas line, the Simpson family visits "Cockamamie's", an offbeat collectibles shop, hoping that it will purchase one of the family's heirlooms (an "authentic" civil war doll which turns out to be a decorative liquor bottle). Homer meets John, the antiques dealer, who explains that much of the merchandise is there because of its camp value. Bart and Lisa take an instant liking to John, and Homer invites him to the Simpsons' house to see the campy items that the family owns. The next morning, Homer tells Marge that he likes John and suggests they invite him and "his wife" over for a drink some time. Marge tries to hint repeatedly to an oblivious Homer that John is gay, and when she eventually can't she tells him face to face and Homer is horrified. Homer's attitude towards John changes completely, and he turns against him, refusing to join his tour of Springfield. The rest of the family joins John and has a good time, but Homer is upset with the family upon their return. The rest of the Simpson family continue to enjoy John's company, especially Bart, who starts wearing Hawaiian shirts and dancing in a woman's wig. This makes Homer uneasy, and he begins to fear Bart is gay.

Homer endeavors to make Bart more masculine by forcing him to look at a cigarette billboard featuring scantily clad women in hopes Bart will be attracted to girls, but instead Bart gets the urge to smoke "anything slim." Homer then escorts him to see a steel mill to show Bart a manly environment; however, much to his surprise and dismay, the entire workforce is gay, and during their breaks they turn the mill into "The Anvil", a gay disco. A desperate Homer insists on taking Bart deer hunting with Moe and Barney. When they cannot find any deer, they decide instead to go to "Santa's Village" and shoot the reindeer in the corral, despite a tearful Bart being reluctant to do so. This backfires when the reindeer attack them. John, with the help of Lisa and Marge, uses a Japanese Santa Claus robot to scare off the reindeer and save the hunting party. Homer accepts John, more or less, and tells Bart, who is still unaware of his father's concerns, that any way he lives his life is fine with him. After Lisa informs Bart that Homer thinks he is gay, Bart is stunned. The episode ends with everyone driving off in John's car.

Just before the end credits a dedication to the steelworkers of America is shown, reading "Keep reaching for that rainbow!"

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 11:41 am
by stip
The end of And Maggie Makes Three may be the most touching moment in Simpson's history. But Homer's Phobia is right up there with You Only Move Twice and Mountain of Madness with the best of 8-10.

Homer's Phobia gets my vote, but it's close.

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 11:51 am
by Norah

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sat June 25, 2016 2:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
This one's tough. I'm going with Maggie Makes Three on gut instinct, but I'll try to watch them this weekend.

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 5:54 am
by tragabigzanda
Homer's Phobia

I'm a long-time fan of John Waters, and remember liking his contributions to this episode. But beyond the general narrative arc, I can't remember much of anything specific before pressing play.

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Three minutes in and I haven't laughed yet. This isn't looking good.

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Homer lands my first laugh when, in reference to Jackie O, yells "Give her a break! Her husband was killed."

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"Oh yea, like when a clown dies."

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"Shall we say five o'clock? The snacking hour?"

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It's already apparent that John Waters's delivery of his lines is going to steal this show. Like Kirk Douglas doing Chester Lampwick, this is another great marriage of the writers, illustrators, and voice actor coming up with a strong character (of course unlike Lampwick, John's cartoon counterpart looks just like him).

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Homer and John's connection at dinner is nice.

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"I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals flaaaaaaaming!"

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John, explaining his bizarro Santa toy in the back of his vehicle:

"...Except over there they call him Annual Gift Man, and he lives on the moon."

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Homer's Ralph Cramden-esque reaction to learning that John is gay feels dated.

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There's a good joke involving a billboard and cigarettes, but it's too much to explain.

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The scene at The Anvil still holds up.
Spoiler: show
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The shit that Homer, Moe, and Barney pull on Bart on the hunting trip is seriously effed up. I'm actually angry at them.

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The end.

I gave a couple monosyllabic "Ha"s throughout, but nothing really made me laugh or even crack a huge grin...

Yet it's still a really strong episode. The initial connection between Homer and John feels honest; when Homer goes into homophobic mode, his reactions are strong enough that there's some real emotion at stake; and John's decision to just sort of stay the course and let Homer come around is a tactful approach for the story to take.

The Ralph Cramden affect taken on by Homer is sort of a mixed bag. It's one-dimensional in a good way: his lines and tone of voice are that of a hopelessly clueless guy who feels threatened on an almost primal level, and I think that's good writing because it can speak to a wide audience. But then very few of his lines are actually very funny, or even compelling. They just sort of move the story along until the emotional climax at the reindeer pen.

I could see why others might have a strong reaction to this episode and want to vote for it, but I'm standing firm with AMMT.

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 11:18 pm
by Simple Torture
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Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 11:19 pm
by Norah
Stop putting the captions in the GIFs.

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 11:20 pm
by Simple Torture
I think they work when the phrasing is really important or ridiculous. This one for some reason reminds me of, "He card reads good."

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 11:21 pm
by Norah
Yeah, but we already know what the line is. We don't need the words to get it.

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 11:34 pm
by Simple Torture
Like Sansa and Ramsay, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Re: And Maggie Makes Three vs. Homer's Phobia

Posted: Sun June 26, 2016 11:36 pm
by Norah
Pfft, Sansa doesn't even rhyme with pain.