I was reading the different threads about Lightning Bolt and while I really enjoy the album, like many of you, I cant stand the shinny production. I know this is entering bootleg territory, but is there a way to "dirt up" the record? I dont know, with a layer of vinyl or something? To make it sound more garagey.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:13 pm
by LetMeSleep
No. Check out ridley's bootleg in the live section, that me scratch your itch.
I dont like your definitive No.
But thanks, will check on the compilation.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:24 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:27 pm
by evenslow
I get all hot and bothered when trag starts talking production.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:27 pm
by Kevin Davis
tragabigzanda wrote:Technically speaking, yes. But it requires a software program called Cedar Tools, which costs several thousand dollars. And then you have to know how to use the program; how to separate the stereo mix into "stems" that make sense; and how to re-mix from these faux stems into something new and cohesive.
A much easier approach to one of my biggest complaints about BS and LB -- that Ed's vox are too loud -- can be fixed with a simple M/S (mid-side) remastering. But "simple" is a relative word -- you need to have the skills to alter his vocal level (which is in the middle of the stereo spread, typically) without negatively impacting the kick, snare, and bass guitar (also in the middle of the spread). Not very easy, really something that only very talented mastering engineers can do effectively.
Several thousand dollars for a new copy of Lightning Bolt...going once....
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:32 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:34 pm
by Hypnos
Lets kickstart this!
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 10:48 pm
by darth_vedder
It's not the same thing, but the brickwall hater mixes are pretty good. S/T seemed to have more space which seemed to help with the shitty mastering.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 11:07 pm
by Jorge
I did it, I fixed LB
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 11:19 pm
by stip
Trag, could you please do all the things you just said. I would be grateful.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 11:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 11:24 pm
by stip
tragabigzanda wrote:I really don't have the skill set, stip. I've sat in on some great mastering sessions and had my mind blown, but it's not really in my wheelhouse.
That's enough excuses
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Mon March 20, 2017 11:26 pm
by The Argonaut
theplatypus wrote:
I did it, I fixed LB
This sounds like the stereo system of a 1994 Ford Escort.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 6:04 am
by Higgs
I can't help but glance at this thread title and immediately the word "turd" jumps in my mind.
As my old man used to so often say, "You can't polish a Turd, Higgsy".
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 8:24 am
by LetMeSleep
Higgs wrote:I can't help but glance at this thread title and immediately the word "turd" jumps in my mind.
As my old man used to so often say, "You can't polish a Turd, Higgsy".
He was one hell of a bloke.
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:12 am
by Higgs
LetMeSleep wrote:
Higgs wrote:I can't help but glance at this thread title and immediately the word "turd" jumps in my mind.
As my old man used to so often say, "You can't polish a Turd, Higgsy".
He was one hell of a bloke.
Yeah. Regal he was, almost austere. Didn't suffer fools.
Shame really, otherwise we would have got on famously...
Re: Can you unshine/unpolish an album sound?
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 3:38 pm
by epilogue
The Argonaut wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
I did it, I fixed LB
This sounds like the stereo system of a 1994 Ford Escort.
