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Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 10:52 pm
by stip
Voting ends 3/22
Winner advances
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 10:52 pm
by stip
I like both of these songs a lot (probably the two best on Binaural) and my vote is completely open to whoever makes the most persuasive argument
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 10:59 pm
by evenslow
It's Rival, stip.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:00 pm
by evenslow
Did I persuade you?
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:13 pm
by darth_vedder
Rival for sure.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:14 pm
by LetMeSleep
Grievance by a millimetre.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:28 pm
by bodysnatcher
stip wrote:I like both of these songs a lot (probably the two best on Binaural) and my vote is completely open to whoever makes the most persuasive argument
1. They sample a dog's growl to open the song and base the opening rhythm on it
2. One of the closest Matt has come to sounding like Jack
3. Those off-kilter layered Ed vocals
4. The lyrics (both of these songs are still incredibly relevant)
5. The looseness of the vocals and hearing Ed react to some of them as he pulls away from the mic
6. That piano. Ohhhh, that piano.
7. The jingle bells.
8. Stone
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:32 pm
by Birds in Hell
Rival, I guess.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:34 pm
by stip
bodysnatcher wrote:stip wrote:I like both of these songs a lot (probably the two best on Binaural) and my vote is completely open to whoever makes the most persuasive argument
1. They sample a dog's growl to open the song and base the opening rhythm on it
2. One of the closest Matt has come to sounding like Jack
3. Those off-kilter layered Ed vocals
4. The lyrics (both of these songs are still incredibly relevant)
5. The looseness of the vocals and hearing Ed react to some of them as he pulls away from the mic
6. That piano. Ohhhh, that piano.
7. The jingle bells.
8. Stone
this is persuasive. Grievance, your rebuttal?
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
The stuttering riff during "Big guy, big eye, watching me..." is one of the most badass rock n' roll moments ever committed to tape. Plus Mike looked like a dark wizard when they debuted the song on Letterman.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:40 pm
by chewm
Grievance, but I like these 2 about the same.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Tue March 21, 2017 11:42 pm
by bodysnatcher
tragabigzanda wrote:The stuttering riff during "Big guy, big eye, watching me..." is one of the most badass rock n' roll moments ever committed to tape.
yeah man, that part gives me chills every single time i listen to that song
Off the top of my head without putting much thought into, this is one of the very few songs – the only? – in the catalogue where Matt is clearly in the driver's seat, and takes this song where it needs to go. And it fucking rules. Ever since, it feels like he's just kinda keeping rhythm.
The song shift of the outro of Grievance never really grabbed me though. That's my only knock against it, personally.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 12:52 am
by PHATJ
...and this nation's about to explode...
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 12:53 am
by LoathedVermin72
I think these are both mid-tier. Rival is a little better than Grievance.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 12:55 am
by Jorge
"Grievance" has a better ending. "Grievance" it is
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 1:03 am
by LuNY
How is Grievance losing to Rival? Grievance is one of their best songs, amazing arrangement, performance, writing, one of the most unique rock songs off all time. I like Rival, but just no, no.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 1:06 am
by tragabigzanda
LuNY wrote:How is Grievance losing to Rival? Grievance is one of their best songs, amazing arrangement, performance, writing, one of the most unique rock songs off all time. I like Rival, but just no, no.
I'm a Grievance voter, but I can dig it. Rival has one of the funnest guitar riffs I know.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 1:25 am
by evenslow
The Snatch (as I call him) and Alexbigzander (as I call him) both made perfect, succinct cases for each song.
Tie still goes to Rival.
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 1:39 am
by LuNY
Who is the Griever who is going to tie this shit up, were at 12 for Grievance and 13 for Rival, come on people this means nothing and everything to me all at once. 
Re: Rival vs. Grievance
Posted: Wed March 22, 2017 1:42 am
by LetMeSleep
Averaging 50 votes so alive my way to go.