Red Mosquito

stip wrote:It really comes down to what the online bracket makers can support. My work was whittling down to 256 songs. But I'm not starting this for about 3 weeks, so there's plenty of time to debate and see if we land on something better and workable.

durdencommatyler wrote:I respect the struggle, Stip. Which is why, ultimately, I don't care. I'm just venting. If there's a way to include them all, I'd love that to happen. But with a hard 256 line, I think you've removed the "correct" tracks. Meaning, you've removed the tracks that really don't stand much of a chance anyway. Like I said, I get it. But I also hate it. Still... all things being equal, you've made good decisions on what to exclude. I just wish we didn't have to exclude anything.

stip wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I respect the struggle, Stip. Which is why, ultimately, I don't care. I'm just venting. If there's a way to include them all, I'd love that to happen. But with a hard 256 line, I think you've removed the "correct" tracks. Meaning, you've removed the tracks that really don't stand much of a chance anyway. Like I said, I get it. But I also hate it. Still... all things being equal, you've made good decisions on what to exclude. I just wish we didn't have to exclude anything.

i have an idea...

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, how come we aren't including any Screaming Trees in this tournament? Or the Singles Soundtrack? Or Mudhoney? Or even... and god help me for even saying this because it makes me want to vomit but... Hole? I mean I detest Courtney Love. But Live Through This is probably a pretty significant "grunge" record released in the appropriate time frame. God, I hate that I just posted that.

If nothing else, we should expand this to include records released in 1989. Bleach, Temple of the Dog, Green River, the Mother Love Bone stuff... all of that should really be included in a "best of" grunge tournament.

I don't want to include bands that were off the radar. I'd like this to be limited to the bands that dominated the grunge discussion of the era, and bands whose discographies we are all largely familiar with. Even if we can't come up with a musical definition to satisfy the pedants, when people talked about grunge during this period this is what they meant.

BurtReynolds wrote:

I don't want to include bands that were off the radar. I'd like this to be limited to the bands that dominated the grunge discussion of the era, and bands whose discographies we are all largely familiar with. Even if we can't come up with a musical definition to satisfy the pedants, when people talked about grunge during this period this is what they meant.

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, how come we aren't including any Screaming Trees in this tournament? Or the Singles Soundtrack? Or Mudhoney? Or even... and god help me for even saying this because it makes me want to vomit but... Hole? I mean I detest Courtney Love. But Live Through This is probably a pretty significant "grunge" record released in the appropriate time frame. God, I hate that I just posted that.

If nothing else, we should expand this to include records released in 1989. Bleach, Temple of the Dog, Green River, the Mother Love Bone stuff... all of that should really be included in a "best of" grunge tournament.

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

I don't want to include bands that were off the radar. I'd like this to be limited to the bands that dominated the grunge discussion of the era, and bands whose discographies we are all largely familiar with. Even if we can't come up with a musical definition to satisfy the pedants, when people talked about grunge during this period this is what they meant.

Which is why I said...

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, how come we aren't including any Screaming Trees in this tournament? Or the Singles Soundtrack? Or Mudhoney? Or even... and god help me for even saying this because it makes me want to vomit but... Hole? I mean I detest Courtney Love. But Live Through This is probably a pretty significant "grunge" record released in the appropriate time frame. God, I hate that I just posted that.

If nothing else, we should expand this to include records released in 1989. Bleach, Temple of the Dog, Green River, the Mother Love Bone stuff... all of that should really be included in a "best of" grunge tournament.

BurtReynolds wrote:I'm not doing this unless Tad is included.