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Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 1:53 pm
by doone
wease wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Because this is a Pearl Jam board, I shouldn't be surprised. But it's astounding to me, this crazy revisionist history. JLP is a phenomenal record. It's iconic. It's truly weird to me, all joking aside, that anyone would say differently.
It really is a good album. Pretty solid from top to bottom.
Enough. Take it to another thread please.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 2:14 pm
by Anders
PHATJ wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Guys, even Jagged Little Pill (which I know all you jackwagons hate) is better than SU.
I don't hate Jagged Little Pill or Alanis Morissette, but c'mon.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 5:50 pm
by VinylGuy
JLP is a fine album. A very good debut...but joe, my good joe...cmon.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 5:53 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:JLP is a fine album. A very good debut...but joe, my good joe...cmon.
Shows how much you know, it's like her third album!
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 5:56 pm
by VinylGuy
durdencommatyler wrote:VinylGuy wrote:JLP is a fine album. A very good debut...but joe, my good joe...cmon.
Shows how much you know, it's like her third album!
Oh, you are a big fan then.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 5:56 pm
by epilogue
I'm not here to bash Cornell or Superunknown. It's a good record. But it's nowhere near the best record of the 90s. I'm not even sure it's Soundgarden's best album of the 90s.
Euphoria Morning on the other hand...
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 5:59 pm
by Anders
I saw Alanis live in 1996, and I loved her performance. Listened hundreds of hours to that album as well.
However, I consider Superunknown to be among the best albums of all time, along with the top Pearl Jam albums and Jar Of Flies. Great time to be alive.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 6:01 pm
by VinylGuy
Ill use the ¨Joey Method¨ for a discussion.
I think it might the best rock album from the 90s.
Its rich and complex and it shows a really big change sonically in the band from where they came before...nor DOTU or EM are such a big departure...and it has like 5 great singles to say the least.
Again, its my thought...of course not a fact like you saying its just a good record but its not near from the best isnt either.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 6:02 pm
by verb_to_trust
History has forgotten that angry Canadian woman. Great album or not.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 6:02 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:Euphoria Morning on the other hand...
Saw Cornell live in 1999 performing songs from his career, but mostly from Euphoria Morning. It was surprising when he came down from the stage to shake my hand, only to walk straight back up again. I guess he saw that I loved his music whether it was from Soundgarden, TOTD, Seasons or Euphoria Morning. Still love that album.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 6:12 pm
by epilogue
It's truly sad to me that I never got to see him live. I would have killed to see him on that acoustic tour he did. Or in support of Euphoria Morning. It makes me sick that I never got that opportunity.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 6:32 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:It's truly sad to me that I never got to see him live. I would have killed to see him on that acoustic tour he did. Or in support of Euphoria Morning. It makes me sick that I never got that opportunity.
I wish I had seen him more than I did as well. He has always been a huge favorite of mine, and still I didn't manage to catch his Oslo shows in 2012 and 2016. In 2012 I found out the day after, when I saw a poster just outside of my home! I'm talking ten meters from the front door of the building. After that I learnt that I need to pay better attention. Still I didn't manage to get tickets in 2016. He had chosen a very small stage, and sold out in record time. Always thought I would get another chance.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 6:49 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:It's truly sad to me that I never got to see him live. I would have killed to see him on that acoustic tour he did. Or in support of Euphoria Morning. It makes me sick that I never got that opportunity.
I wish I had seen him more than I did as well. He has always been a huge favorite of mine, and still I didn't manage to catch his Oslo shows in 2012 and 2016. In 2012 I found out the day after, when I saw a poster just outside of my home! I'm talking ten meters from the front door of the building. After that I learnt that I need to pay better attention. Still I didn't manage to get tickets in 2016. He had chosen a very small stage, and sold out in record time. Always thought I would get another chance.
I'm a huge fan of the man. But Soundgarden is probably my least favorite of his endeavors. Which is weird to me. The stuff that I like by Soundgarden is stuff that I fucking LOVE. Some his best individual songs are obviously Soundgarden songs. And Superunknown is a great record on the balance. But I've always like his solo stuff the most.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 8:40 pm
by Anders
durdencommatyler wrote:Anders wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:It's truly sad to me that I never got to see him live. I would have killed to see him on that acoustic tour he did. Or in support of Euphoria Morning. It makes me sick that I never got that opportunity.
I wish I had seen him more than I did as well. He has always been a huge favorite of mine, and still I didn't manage to catch his Oslo shows in 2012 and 2016. In 2012 I found out the day after, when I saw a poster just outside of my home! I'm talking ten meters from the front door of the building. After that I learnt that I need to pay better attention. Still I didn't manage to get tickets in 2016. He had chosen a very small stage, and sold out in record time. Always thought I would get another chance.
I'm a huge fan of the man. But Soundgarden is probably my least favorite of his endeavors. Which is weird to me. The stuff that I like by Soundgarden is stuff that I fucking LOVE. Some his best individual songs are obviously Soundgarden songs. And Superunknown is a great record on the balance. But I've always like his solo stuff the most.
His best solo stuff is amazing, but it's a lot more varied in quality than what he did through Soundgarden. I think the tournament on RM shows that as well.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 8:47 pm
by epilogue
I think you're probably right. It's just not for me as much.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed July 19, 2017 10:30 pm
by Birds in Hell
I'm the opposite of Joey here, I'm really only into Chris's work with SG - his solo stuff, even Euphoria Morning, just doesn't hit the spot for me (and Audioslave, well, uh).
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu July 20, 2017 1:53 pm
by epilogue
Yeah, I think that's pretty common, Spenno. I think more people are on your side of things. And just to further frustrate all of you, I'll admit that I also listen to Audioslave way more than I listen to Soundgarden. I'm also far more familiar with all of Audioslave's work than I am with Soundgarden. So... I probably like Audioslave more.
Sorry, guys.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu July 20, 2017 1:55 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
His lyrics are what have always drawn me in. So I've always been interested in most of his stuff, though if I'm being honest I like the SG stuff more than the solo stuff.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu July 20, 2017 2:59 pm
by Anders
E.H. Ruddock wrote:His lyrics are what have always drawn me in. So I've always been interested in most of his stuff, though if I'm being honest I like the SG stuff more than the solo stuff.
I agree about the lyrics, but Kim Thayil on guitar is also a bonus (or Mike and Stone with Totd).
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu July 20, 2017 5:08 pm
by Strat
From pearl jam. Not sure who wrote it....
I keep waking up in the middle of the night and remember, fresh again, that you are gone. An absence grows in my stomach and slowly turns circles like a far off galaxy on a grainy tv.
The same questions follow and my heart races...searching for reasons and what ifs..
I'm so selfishly sad that I'll never get to see you again, never play with you again, never feel the bask of your approval or be part of your life.
Fuck....
We all miss you so much...it was always a given in my mind we would all spend more time together when we got older, we would play more music and love and be loved like we dreamed...this was your time and you shared it with us...thank you.
You were too much...
Your talent was jaw dropping...your songs, lyrics, your voice...how could you have all 3...
And then, the not so obvious...your wicked sense of humor and your playfulness...
all of us are heartsick and we will never get over losing you.
We hope you're in peace and that your particles are mutating and transforming in harmony with nature. We wish your family our utmost condolences and sympathies.
We love you Chris,
Happy Birthday