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Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 1:24 am
by Hatfield
Chris_H_2 wrote:
kreng wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Low Desert is awesome too.
That’s my favorite of that record. Sometimes my favorite rem song
I remember Michael Stipe saying that that was his favorite off the album repeatedly during the Up tour (for which Wilco opened BTW).
Low Desert.....In Charelston, at my first PJ show, Ed talked about having the music for Present Tense from Mike but not being able to come up with lyrics, then he got inspired by Pete Townsend's initials. PT.

The base line from Low Desert is the same as Neil Young's Last Dance. LD. The whole "recording it live" and the connection to Neil's Time Fades Away being live always made me wonder if that is where Stipe got inspired for the lyrics/title.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 1:24 am
by Hatfield
durdencommatyler wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:Just had New Adventures playing this afternoon, and I've noticed two things
1) There's no real low points on this album - just parts that shoot REAL high
2) Undertow doesn't seem to get the love it deserves around these parts
Undertow is excellent.
Yeah, my feeling is that you only feel that way, Rangi, because it's universally loved. Undertow is kind of a given. People don't talk about it as much because it speaks for itself. :heartbeat:
:hooray:

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 1:25 am
by Hatfield
Chris_H_2 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I think Up might need a few shakes to be a perfect REM album.
is this in reference to bill berry's aneurysm?
jesus christ, you are talkin about a human being.
what? his departure was a known inflection point for the band, so much so that they almost seriously broke up after he decided to leave. up is the first album that they didn't have his influence or get pushed in a direction by him, and the result is an album that most people, other than die hards, find hard to digest.
i was joking.

RM wtf, what happen?
full disclosure: i meant my original post as an obviously tasteless joke and belatedly tried in vain to cover it up.
We knew and..................we laughed.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 1:33 am
by PHATJ
Hatfield wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
kreng wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Low Desert is awesome too.
That’s my favorite of that record. Sometimes my favorite rem song
I remember Michael Stipe saying that that was his favorite off the album repeatedly during the Up tour (for which Wilco opened BTW).
Low Desert.....In Charelston, at my first PJ show, Ed talked about having the music for Present Tense from Mike but not being able to come up with lyrics, then he got inspired by Pete Townsend's initials. PT.

The base line from Low Desert is the same as Neil Young's Last Dance. LD. The whole "recording it live" and the connection to Neil's Time Fades Away being live always made me wonder if that is where Stipe got inspired for the lyrics/title.
:comp:

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 3:17 pm
by VinylGuy
Im listening Reveal for the first time ever, for some reason i hated the album when it came out. I liked Imitation Of Life enough, but hated the video of All The Way To Reno, and i was so tired of the band i guess i wasnt in the mood for more music.

Weirdly enough, a few years go by and they release the In Time compilation, and im super fucking into REM again, loving Around The Sun, seeing them live, getting into b sides....but never never Reveal.

So far im not liking Reveal at all.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 3:38 pm
by Chris_H_2
i've posted this before, but for me reveal is a "feel" album, if that makes sense (it has to be summer, it has to be sunny and hot out, and it has to be mid-day/afternoon for me to get into the mood to listen to it).

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 4:02 pm
by VinylGuy
maybe yes...i think its mostly boring... Imitation Of Life is great, Ill Take The Rain is great and thats about it it seems.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 4:06 pm
by Chris_H_2
oh, it’s not good at all

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 4:18 pm
by Blaine Ryan
Something about the glossy, summer-y production style of Reveal has always rubbed me the wrong way. It feels heavy and draining to me, like I'm wading through an endless desert. I can handle it in short doses but as a full album experience it's kind of exhausting.

That said, I really like about half of that record. I think the highlights are great. But there's also a bunch of stuff on there that just plain doesn't work for me.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 4:20 pm
by VinylGuy
I thought it was mainly boring and uninspired.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 5:07 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:I thought it was mainly boring and uninspired.
Same

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 5:09 pm
by Chris_H_2
i really, really, really hate all the way to reno, and i'm not a fan of imitation of life either

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 5:10 pm
by epilogue
I like Imitation of Life. But the only song on the record that I love, the only one I have to keep is I'll Take the Rain.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 5:11 pm
by Chris_H_2
i've always like i've been high. but you're right, i'll take the rain is fantastic.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 6:26 pm
by VinylGuy
durdencommatyler wrote:I like Imitation of Life. But the only song on the record that I love, the only one I have to keep is I'll Take the Rain.
Yes to everything here.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 9:54 pm
by Rangi Guy
VinylGuy wrote:Im listening Reveal for the first time ever, for some reason i hated the album when it came out. I liked Imitation Of Life enough, but hated the video of All The Way To Reno, and i was so tired of the band i guess i wasnt in the mood for more music.

Weirdly enough, a few years go by and they release the In Time compilation, and im super fucking into REM again, loving Around The Sun, seeing them live, getting into b sides....but never never Reveal.

So far im not liking Reveal at all.
I went to chuck this on yesterday, but on opening the CD case - turns out the album is missing.....

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 9:59 pm
by epilogue
Rangi Guy wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im listening Reveal for the first time ever, for some reason i hated the album when it came out. I liked Imitation Of Life enough, but hated the video of All The Way To Reno, and i was so tired of the band i guess i wasnt in the mood for more music.

Weirdly enough, a few years go by and they release the In Time compilation, and im super fucking into REM again, loving Around The Sun, seeing them live, getting into b sides....but never never Reveal.

So far im not liking Reveal at all.
I went to chuck this on yesterday, but on opening the CD case - turns out the album is missing.....
:shock:

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 10:01 pm
by Rangi Guy
durdencommatyler wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im listening Reveal for the first time ever, for some reason i hated the album when it came out. I liked Imitation Of Life enough, but hated the video of All The Way To Reno, and i was so tired of the band i guess i wasnt in the mood for more music.

Weirdly enough, a few years go by and they release the In Time compilation, and im super fucking into REM again, loving Around The Sun, seeing them live, getting into b sides....but never never Reveal.

So far im not liking Reveal at all.
I went to chuck this on yesterday, but on opening the CD case - turns out the album is missing.....
:shock:
Right now having to listen to Reveal via YouTube as I've stashed that somewhere I can't find....

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 10:10 pm
by Jorge
"Imitation of Life" is probably my favorite REM single

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Wed February 13, 2019 10:15 pm
by Rangi Guy
Not a big fan of the song, but it's nice to hear Michael sing again