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Re: 2013 song tournament: PM stip your lists

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 11:32 pm
by Lament
elliseamos wrote:My thoughts on the playlists posted so far:

Lament's was surprisingly strong, like best setlist i've heard strong. sort of like Chud's, I found myself enjoying the combination of songs more than I'd initially anticipated just looking at them listed. Kurt's is great, my initial vote based just on lists of songs went to Jambi, but I considered Kurt's to be #2. After listening to both in the order they'd arranged them, I'd give the slight edge to Kurt now (my #2 setlist). It came down to Jambi's 4-7 tracks just boring me a little too much (which has dropped it to #5 behind Chud's #4 and ilpazzo's #3). Awesome job, everybody this is fun.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I played it on my run today and was hoping someone else would give it a listen, cause I realize I have a lot of songs that (even if people love them) people probably think "eh, I don't need to hear that again."

Confession: I found myself getting into that version of The Fixer. It's got some teeth that the studio version lacks.

So far Jorge's is the only one I've had time to listen to, but it made for a pretty great late night listen yesterday. I'm particularly looking forward to listening to super nintendo chalmer's playlist later, but I'm sure they'll all make for good listens. It's been more gratifying than I would've thought to listen to so much of the back catalog in a different context.


(Also, it looks like the link to my playlist is incorrect in the post with the match-ups; would it be too much to get that fixed? Thanks!)

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 11:36 pm
by KurtLeon
Im gonna make my list right now. Wait up team.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 11:39 pm
by elliseamos
could the poll atop the each page be dropped? it seems a little pointless with match-up voting started/starting.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 11:39 pm
by Norah
elliseamos wrote:could the poll atop the each page be dropped? it seems a little pointless with match-up voting started/starting.
agreed

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Mon August 05, 2013 11:41 pm
by elliseamos
cutuphalfdead wrote:
elliseamos wrote:could the poll atop the each page be dropped? it seems a little pointless with match-up voting started/starting.
agreed
this is our greatest quote pyramid of this version of RM. in this moment, i am happy.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:06 am
by Thejambi



Here is the link if you want to download. I'm not a big audio guy so I hope this sounds alright.
http://www.jambisource.com/RMJAMBI.mp3

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:10 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Here's the link to my mix again, btw: http://www.mixcloud.com/birdsinhell/so- ... l-jam-mix/
Listening now to see what im up against
Damn, that was really good, especially the first 5 songs, awesome team

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:15 am
by Thejambi
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Here's the link to my mix again, btw: http://www.mixcloud.com/birdsinhell/so- ... l-jam-mix/
Listening now to see what im up against
Damn, that was really good, especially the first 5 songs, awesome team
I hate the song but leatherman makes a good opener. The transistion to PMPM is nice :thumbsup:

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:17 am
by elliseamos
Thejambi wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Here's the link to my mix again, btw: http://www.mixcloud.com/birdsinhell/so- ... l-jam-mix/
Listening now to see what im up against
Damn, that was really good, especially the first 5 songs, awesome team
I hate the song but leatherman makes a good opener. The transistion to PMPM is nice :thumbsup:
i think so too.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:28 am
by Thejambi
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Come to think of it, I have all the songs recorded off the radio on cassette tape. So I can hold a microphone up to my cassette player while I play the songs, I'll then publicly broadcast it via UStream.

You guys will have to tell me if you want it to start again, or go backward/forward etc. Because of my limited bandwidth (dial up modem 14.4k) all communications will need to be via Morse code, or carrier pigeon.

There will be a point every 30 minutes where I won't be contactable, because I'll have to go out onto the pedal dyno and generate some more electricity. This usually takes about 30 minutes, for another 30-40 minutes of power. Although I could use the hand crank dyno, but this needs to be done constantly and I need a hand to hold the microphone up to the cassette player, so this may be a little difficult.

What do you guys think?
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Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:39 am
by stip
Thoughts and votes

I think I'm going to rate songs on the usual 1-5 and then give the playlist up to 8 points.


1. Kurtleon
Can't Keep: 4.5
Severed Hand: 4
Hail, Hail: 4.5
Got Some: 4
Given To Fly: 5
Puzzles and Games: 4
Rival: 4.5
Comeback: 4
Leaving Here: 3.5
Of The Earth: 3.5

very solid selection of songs. I like the can't keep transition into severed hand. Actually the first 6 transitions are all very strong, and the slow burning intro into rival kicks off the back half. Leaving Here and Of the Earth do stick out a bit, though--like they were tacked onto the end for lack of a better place to put them.

7/8

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2. Ilpazzo

I'm Open-2
Animal-5
Whipping-4
Deep-3
Cready Stomp-2
Green Disease-2.5
Untitled-2.5
Nothing as it Seems-4
Hard to Imagine-4
Love, Reign O'er me-4.5

a much weaker collection of songs for my taste. I get the logic of I'm Open to start but it feels a bit too much like an idea in progress to begin, and then the stark transition into animal is too much, musically and thematically. Animal to Whipping to Deep to Cready Stomp works pretty well. I especially like WHipping into Deep--the way whipping abrubtly stops and then you have that thunderous bottom following out intro to deep. Green Disease feels a bit light after the heavier songs, and doesn't seem like a compelling way to end the heavier run of songs. The untitled improv is nice for what it is, but I think it would have worked MUCH better segueing into Hard to Imagine. NAIS is too heavy for it. Hard to Imagine into LROM works well, and LROM is a strong finsiher. 4/8 for the setlist.

Kurtleon (48.5) over ilpazzo (37.5). Kurt has one of my favorite teams, and did a really nice job creating a setlist.


3. Cutuphalfdead
Sad-4.5
No Way-3
Daughter-4
Cropduster-3.5
Gods' Dice-2
Low Light-2.5
MFC-3
Arc-3.5
Sunburn-2.5
Parting Way-4

I really like how sad moves into No Way. That's a strong fast to mid tempo shift, and daughter's tune up begining makes it easy to follow No Way's funk. Daughter ends with the fade and is a bit of a pallette cleanser, so I'd kind of like to see it follow a longer sequence of songs. Cropduster feels like it is starting another new sequence, and I can kinda see how God's Dice makes sense following it, but I think I'd want something else midtemp there, or at least not as fast as God's Dice. Low Light works pretty well coming out of the abrupt stop, and MFC is nice after low light. Arc, Sunburn, Parting Ways is fine. I wonder how lowlight and sunburn would have worked switched. 5/8

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4. Oasisfan35
Release-5
Save You-4
Once-4
Why Go-4
Wash-3.5
Wishlist-4 (one of the best songs on Yield--than you for drafting it)
Thumbing My Way-2.5
Even Flow-4.5
Brother-2.5
Indifference-5

One of the better collections of songs, but Brother and TMW are hard to swallow when Just Breathe and Amongst the Waves were still out there.

I think Release works great as a concert opener because of the energy in the building, which eases the way into a faster song, but it works less well as a studio opener, and would have worked better as an opener with a slow burning heavier song (corduory or NFY for instance), although I'm not sure oasis had anything on his list that would have worked. Maybe wash would have been a better opener. Save you into once is nice. Once into Why Go doesn't work quite as well for me. It's fine, I guess, but why not just use Even flow :). WHy Go into Wash works pretty well. Not sure how I feel about wash into wishlist. I think I'd like TMW there a bit more--I think wash wants to be followed by something with a more decisive begining. I don't really like the even flow into brother into Indifference sequence, even though Indifference obvioulsy works great as a closer. 3/8. A strong set of songs, but not crazy about the playlist. I wonder if this was just a case of having 10 songs that are indiviudally strong but don't necessarily work well together

Oasisfan (42) over Chud (37.8)

5. Its Not 1974

Happy When I'm Crying-3 (I've warmed to this song a bit, but I still don't love it)
Satan's Bed-4
Whale Song-2.5
Who You Are-4
Bugs-3
You Are-3.5
Light Years-3.5
Anything in Between-2.5
Insignificance-4.5
Spin the Black Circle-4

I like the idea of happy when I'm crying as an opener. that's pretty clever. Overall this set is a bit disjointed, but in a way that wants to keep the listener off balance, and even though there are a bunch of songs on this list that I am not necessarily in love with, they are better for the presentation. Who You are into Bugs into You Are into Light Years is a great run. Anything in between sticks out a bit but you hid it well (where someone like Kurt just tucked his problem songs at the end). STBC is not what I think of when I think of an ending, but it follows insignificance nicely. I want to end on something more filling, but it also makes sense that this setlist would leave me feeling slightly off. 7/8.

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6. WTOB?
Go-5
Grievance-4.5
Hitchhiker-1.5 (god I hate this song)
Pilate-3
1/2 Full-3
Army Reserve-3
Love Boat Captain-2.5
Help Help-3
Harmony-2
Present Tense-4

Adam started strong and then really fell off the planet with the rest of his picks. Go is a great opener. Not an original choice, but it works so well there it'd be a shame not to put it there. Grievance and Hitchhiker work fine as follow ups, but I kinda want something heavier following go--Grievance has that hollow opening and I'm expecting something more solid. Maybe 1/2 full would have worked well there. Perhaps its the songs, but I feel like I can't really get drawn into this setlist. I see how the 1/2 Full to Present Tense run is supposed to work, but it doesn't end up enhancing the songs for me. Harmony actually follows help help pretty well, but I don't really like Harmony into Present Tense. Harmony is a bit of a pallet cleanser and I don't like my closing songs to come out of nowhere. 3/8

Its not 1974 (41.5) over Adamdude (34.5)

7. Birds in Hell
Leatherman (another one I can't stand--one of the few pearl jam songs I actively dislike)-1
Push Me, Pull Me-3.5
In the Moonlight-2.5
Speed of Sound-3
Tremor Christ-4.5
Glorified G-3
Comatose-5
Red Mosquito-4.5
Black-5
Habit-3.5

Leatherman is an interesting choice to start, but feels out of place given the direction you then move in afterwords. I don't care for in the Moonlight, but this run of off kilter songs works VERY well. Nicely done. I would have said that Glorifed G shouldn't be able to follow Tremor Christ, but I would have been wrong. GG into Comatose works great. I wish RM didn't have the pause following comatose, but it's not bad. The 'if I had known then' is a nice segue into the old photograph start of black. THat worked quite well. Not usre how i feel about habit as a closer. It seems a bit lightweight to close, even with the excellent outro, and black is such a logical stopping point. 7/8 Other than the opener and closer this is a really well designed setlist that enhances a number of songs I don't necessarily care for

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8. Dr. Van Nostrand

All Or None-3
Smile-3.5
Alive-5
All Night-4
Johnny Guitar-4
Parachutes-4.5
Aye Davanita-2.5
Faithfull-3
Last Soldier-3.5
Open Road-2.5

All or None is kind of a boring song, so I'm not sure it's the best way to start a run of songs. Smile works well after it, and I like the start of Alive after the end of smile. I see why All Night is following Alive, but it feels a little slight after it. That might have been a good moment for a change of pace song like parachutes. Johnny Guitar is nice after All Night. Aye Davanita works well with parachutes, and parachutes is fine after JG, although I would have liked to see it earlier. Faithful works fine after Aye Davanita, and Last Soldier works quite wellafter faithful. Open Road is a bit out of place as a live song, but it doesn't really do any harm at the end. 5/8 A solid set overall.

Speeno (41.5) over Doc (40.5)

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:40 am
by Thejambi
we just voting via post?

Re: 2013 song tournament: PM stip your lists

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:42 am
by stip
Lament wrote:
elliseamos wrote:My thoughts on the playlists posted so far:

Lament's was surprisingly strong, like best setlist i've heard strong. sort of like Chud's, I found myself enjoying the combination of songs more than I'd initially anticipated just looking at them listed. Kurt's is great, my initial vote based just on lists of songs went to Jambi, but I considered Kurt's to be #2. After listening to both in the order they'd arranged them, I'd give the slight edge to Kurt now (my #2 setlist). It came down to Jambi's 4-7 tracks just boring me a little too much (which has dropped it to #5 behind Chud's #4 and ilpazzo's #3). Awesome job, everybody this is fun.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I played it on my run today and was hoping someone else would give it a listen, cause I realize I have a lot of songs that (even if people love them) people probably think "eh, I don't need to hear that again."

Confession: I found myself getting into that version of The Fixer. It's got some teeth that the studio version lacks.

So far Jorge's is the only one I've had time to listen to, but it made for a pretty great late night listen yesterday. I'm particularly looking forward to listening to super nintendo chalmer's playlist later, but I'm sure they'll all make for good listens. It's been more gratifying than I would've thought to listen to so much of the back catalog in a different context.


(Also, it looks like the link to my playlist is incorrect in the post with the match-ups; would it be too much to get that fixed? Thanks!)

pm me the link again, please

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:42 am
by stip
Thejambi wrote:we just voting via post?
yup

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:44 am
by Thejambi
stip wrote:
Thejambi wrote:we just voting via post?
yup
Thanks. Just those 4 matchup yes?

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:45 am
by KurtLeon
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Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:46 am
by Lament
Fuck, does that look good. Especially 1-9. Damn.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:49 am
by epilogue
I'm gonna be a bit harder on teams that have covers when there were still so many quality (IMHO) originals left on the board.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:50 am
by elliseamos
1. Kurtleon vs. ilpazzo
2. Cutuphalfdead vs. Oasisfan35
3. It's not 1974 vs. WTOB?
4. Birds in Hell vs. Dr. Van Nostrand

Match-ups 1 & 4 are really tough draws for those setlists! I'd take those four of this group, but based on the match-ups, I had to go the way I did.

Re: 2013 song tournament: Matches 1-4

Posted: Tue August 06, 2013 12:53 am
by Lament
I see a lot of people have specific versions in the playlists they submitted. I dropped the ball on that one. My post on the board specified which versions were in the mix I posted, but the one I "officially" submitted didn't. I'm so bad at internetting.