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Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:06 pm
by verb_to_trust
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm sure this is a naive question, but in issues like this where the SC is deciding whether or not a woman's right is tied to the constitution, does anyone ever argue that women did not write the constitution? I guess what I'm getting at is how are we this blind as a country to see that the constitution was written by one specific group of people? We've evolved as a country (or so I thought). White men are not the only ones with issues now like they were back then. Or issues that mattered to them, anyway.
I’m pretty sure women of the time didn’t wish they could abort at will and secretly hated Ben Franklin for oppressing them. I guess what I’m saying is, women of the time didn’t have purple hair.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:07 pm
by Mickey
Your brain is so fucking wet it's unreal.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:11 pm
by verb_to_trust
Is that a good thing? Like if your jumper is wet playing pickup?
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:20 pm
by wease
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm sure this is a naive question, but in issues like this where the SC is deciding whether or not a woman's right is tied to the constitution, does anyone ever argue that women did not write the constitution? I guess what I'm getting at is how are we this blind as a country to see that the constitution was written by one specific group of people? We've evolved as a country (or so I thought). White men are not the only ones with issues now like they were back then. Or issues that mattered to them, anyway.
The whole interpretation of it now is to protect the white, Christian male agenda. Anything outside of that group does not matter. It was true then and it’s true now.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:37 pm
by BurtReynolds
Why are liberals thought to hate America? It's a real mystery.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:37 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
verb_to_trust wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm sure this is a naive question, but in issues like this where the SC is deciding whether or not a woman's right is tied to the constitution, does anyone ever argue that women did not write the constitution? I guess what I'm getting at is how are we this blind as a country to see that the constitution was written by one specific group of people? We've evolved as a country (or so I thought). White men are not the only ones with issues now like they were back then. Or issues that mattered to them, anyway.
I’m pretty sure women of the time didn’t wish they could abort at will and secretly hated Ben Franklin for oppressing them. I guess what I’m saying is, women of the time didn’t have purple hair.
Thanks for making my point? We’ve evolved as a country to where women and minorities are supposed to have equal rights. Why base things on a constitution that was just for the rights of white men?
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:43 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:Why are liberals thought to hate America? It's a real mystery.
Because the right is excellent and propaganda. It's not that difficult.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:47 pm
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm sure this is a naive question, but in issues like this where the SC is deciding whether or not a woman's right is tied to the constitution, does anyone ever argue that women did not write the constitution? I guess what I'm getting at is how are we this blind as a country to see that the constitution was written by one specific group of people? We've evolved as a country (or so I thought). White men are not the only ones with issues now like they were back then. Or issues that mattered to them, anyway.
I’m pretty sure women of the time didn’t wish they could abort at will and secretly hated Ben Franklin for oppressing them. I guess what I’m saying is, women of the time didn’t have purple hair.
Thanks for making my point? We’ve evolved as a country to where women and minorities are supposed to have equal rights.
Why base things on a constitution that was just for the rights of white men?
Dude, take a breath. That is not in any way a reflection of reality then or now.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 4:52 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Hmm
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:00 pm
by verb_to_trust
wease wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm sure this is a naive question, but in issues like this where the SC is deciding whether or not a woman's right is tied to the constitution, does anyone ever argue that women did not write the constitution? I guess what I'm getting at is how are we this blind as a country to see that the constitution was written by one specific group of people? We've evolved as a country (or so I thought). White men are not the only ones with issues now like they were back then. Or issues that mattered to them, anyway.
The whole interpretation of it now is to protect the white, Christian male agenda. Anything outside of that group does not matter. It was true then and it’s true now.
Lots of religions prohibit abortion. Why do people always single out Christians?
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:02 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I’m guessing here in the US because it is the majority religion.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
How would the US Constitution differ exactly? Just some things like ad hoc prohibition on regulations on abortion? Or an entirely rethought ideology? How would these things be added beyond equal voting rights for women? Granting them special powers?
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:03 pm
by verb_to_trust
Lots of Muslims live in america
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:06 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote: Granting them special powers?

Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:07 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
verb_to_trust wrote:Lots of Muslims live in america
Maybe my observations have been wrong or misled , but the majority of people i see against abortion in the US are conservative Christians. Would be interesting to see what is the faith, if any, the +/- 35% of people who are against abortion rights.
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
Banning abortion certainly doesn't strengthen white power given the abortion rate differences between races. But maybe this is an instance of religious interests overwhelming racial interests?
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:08 pm
by epilogue
Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote: Granting them special powers?

"I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks,"
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:08 pm
by verb_to_trust
E.H. Ruddock wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:Lots of Muslims live in america
Maybe my observations have been wrong or misled , but the majority of people i see against abortion in the US are conservative Christians. Would be interesting to see what is the faith, if any, the +/- 35% of people who are against abortion rights.
Just admit that Muslims are against this too
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:10 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
They may be. I don’t know. But I’m talking about the majority in the US. I’m trying to ask questions here, admitting that it may be naive. Why are you trying to “gotcha” me here? Must you always be a giant douche?
Re: Women's Health Issues
Posted: Mon June 27, 2022 5:10 pm
by BurtReynolds
epilogue wrote:Bi_3 wrote:BurtReynolds wrote: Granting them special powers?

"I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks,"
Cute quote and all, but could you be more specific?