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Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 10:40 pm
by Kaius
chewm wrote:I love Breath.

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 10:55 pm
by darth_vedder
Kaius wrote:
chewm wrote:I love Breath.
me too, i just think i like porch a little more

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 11:51 pm
by Birds in Hell
While I do love Porch and agree it's a beast live, I am heartily sick of the slow start with Ed on guitar.

Very ready for them to bring back the "normal" fast intro.

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Sun February 21, 2016 11:57 pm
by Iholdthepain
I always thought Breath was a bit over-rated from around the time of the MSG sign campaign. The end is exactly like Alive (or Even Flow, I can't remember...) Porch gets the nod due exclusively to the live history (Atlanta '94 is unbe-fucking-lievable!)

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Mon February 22, 2016 2:44 pm
by chuck taylor
cutuphalfdead wrote:
chuck taylor wrote:Porch, simply for its role as a live song. Breath always seems like a really great idea at the start, but Eddie never quite gets to the peak I always expect from listening to the studio version.
I can't stand this mode of voting. Vote for the composition, not particular performances.

"Man, song A is better overall but it really sucked during the 2007 tour so I guess I'll vote for song B because it's always been at least decent live".
I understand the "vote for the composition" aspect, but the latter half of the above comment is reductio ad absurdum, so I don't know what to say. These two songs in particular are strongly connected to live performances for a lot of fans, though, and that's going to seep into the voting process. The images that immediately popped into my head for these two songs when I opened this poll were 1) the early 90's live versions of Porch with Eddie going manimal, and 2) the Breath sign campaign/it being a rarity at concerts.

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Mon February 22, 2016 2:54 pm
by vedder316
Never quite got the love for Breath, so Porch it is - album, live, whatever.

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Mon February 22, 2016 3:11 pm
by tragabigzanda
chuck taylor wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
chuck taylor wrote:Porch, simply for its role as a live song. Breath always seems like a really great idea at the start, but Eddie never quite gets to the peak I always expect from listening to the studio version.
I can't stand this mode of voting. Vote for the composition, not particular performances.

"Man, song A is better overall but it really sucked during the 2007 tour so I guess I'll vote for song B because it's always been at least decent live".
I understand the "vote for the composition" aspect, but the latter half of the above comment is reductio ad absurdum, so I don't know what to say. These two songs in particular are strongly connected to live performances for a lot of fans, though, and that's going to seep into the voting process. The images that immediately popped into my head for these two songs when I opened this poll were 1) the early 90's live versions of Porch with Eddie going manimal, and 2) the Breath sign campaign/it being a rarity at concerts.
Songs are like children -- they take on a life of their own after inception. Some will have a large live component; others might be tainted by their inclusion in a television show; and any song that's ever been picked as a wedding dance has its own magic. Judging strictly on composition is like judging a person based on one single photograph.

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Mon February 22, 2016 3:13 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:
chuck taylor wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
chuck taylor wrote:Porch, simply for its role as a live song. Breath always seems like a really great idea at the start, but Eddie never quite gets to the peak I always expect from listening to the studio version.
I can't stand this mode of voting. Vote for the composition, not particular performances.

"Man, song A is better overall but it really sucked during the 2007 tour so I guess I'll vote for song B because it's always been at least decent live".
I understand the "vote for the composition" aspect, but the latter half of the above comment is reductio ad absurdum, so I don't know what to say. These two songs in particular are strongly connected to live performances for a lot of fans, though, and that's going to seep into the voting process. The images that immediately popped into my head for these two songs when I opened this poll were 1) the early 90's live versions of Porch with Eddie going manimal, and 2) the Breath sign campaign/it being a rarity at concerts.
Songs are like children -- they take on a life of their own after inception. Some will have a large live component; others might be tainted by their inclusion in a television show; and any song that's ever been picked as a wedding dance has its own magic. Judging strictly on composition is like judging a person based on one single photograph.
:gomez:

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Mon February 22, 2016 3:44 pm
by darth_vedder
I largely consider the studio takes for this, but for a few songs, I've thought of live version. For this match up, I voted Porch because of the "redux" version and because of the unplugged version.

Re: II-17 Porch vs. Breath

Posted: Mon February 22, 2016 3:59 pm
by tragabigzanda
darth_vedder wrote:I largely consider the studio takes for this, but for a few songs, I've thought of live version. For this match up, I voted Porch because of the "redux" version and because of the unplugged version.
Yea, the unplugged version puts this song on another level.