seems like the biggest complaints are about fans having fun/showing emotion
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 4:47 pm
by mkay0
verb_to_trust wrote:No Code is their shortest record right? If they tried this with anything other than this or Ten I honestly don't think it would work...
Backspacer is far and away the shortest, at 37 minutes.
When you say you don't think it would work doing other records, what do you mean? Like, the band could not pull it off, or they would lose the crowd?
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 4:51 pm
by warehouse
they played the s/t album front to back in 2006
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 4:53 pm
by dimejinky99
Growing consensus in Infallible being a killer...sucks all the energy out.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 4:54 pm
by mkay0
warehouse wrote:seems like the biggest complaints are about fans having fun/showing emotion
I have gotten emotional at a PJ show, I hope I'm not being judged for it.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 4:59 pm
by verb_to_trust
mkay0 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:No Code is their shortest record right? If they tried this with anything other than this or Ten I honestly don't think it would work...
Backspacer is far and away the shortest, at 37 minutes.
When you say you don't think it would work doing other records, what do you mean? Like, the band could not pull it off, or they would lose the crowd?
I think any record other than Ten and No Code and they lose the crowd. BS is short enough I guess but doesn't have the songs...
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:06 pm
by @SkitchP
verb_to_trust wrote:
mkay0 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:No Code is their shortest record right? If they tried this with anything other than this or Ten I honestly don't think it would work...
Backspacer is far and away the shortest, at 37 minutes.
When you say you don't think it would work doing other records, what do you mean? Like, the band could not pull it off, or they would lose the crowd?
I think any record other than Ten and No Code and they lose the crowd. BS is short enough I guess but doesn't have the songs...
I think Vitalogy would work provided you significantly trim down some of the non songs
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:08 pm
by NancyBabich
@SkitchP wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
mkay0 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:No Code is their shortest record right? If they tried this with anything other than this or Ten I honestly don't think it would work...
Backspacer is far and away the shortest, at 37 minutes.
When you say you don't think it would work doing other records, what do you mean? Like, the band could not pull it off, or they would lose the crowd?
I think any record other than Ten and No Code and they lose the crowd. BS is short enough I guess but doesn't have the songs...
I think Vitalogy would work provided you significantly trim down some of the non songs
How long would Vitalogy be if they only played the actual songs?
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:17 pm
by Will
I agree that its sort of reminiscent of a move Phish made years ago. I think they did a Halloween show and performed Remain In Light, or something, but then unexpectedly performed Dark Side a couple nighs later in Salt Lake City.
Regardless, I really hope this opens the possibility of this happening again in the future. It'd be weird if it became commonplace and even expected, but every now and then if they chose to slide a record in here and there, it could usher in a period of really magical shows.
It seems like In My Tree was the collective "holy shit" moment for the diehards in the crowd, but can anyone describe what it was like at the end of Around The Bend?
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:19 pm
by NancyBabich
Will wrote:I agree that its sort of reminiscent of a move Phish made years ago. I think they did a Halloween show and performed Remain In Light, or something, but then unexpectedly performed Dark Side a couple nighs later in Salt Lake City.
Regardless, I really hope this opens the possibility of this happening again in the future. It'd be weird if it became commonplace and even expected, but every now and then if they chose to slide a record in here and there, it could usher in a period of really magical shows.
It seems like In My Tree was the collective "holy shit" moments for the diehards in the crowd, but can anyone describe what it was like at the end of Around The Bend?
Hoped they would go straight into Brain Of J.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:25 pm
by Kevin Davis
verb_to_trust wrote:Maybe infallible just sounded bad from the floor? it was tough for me to pick out the melody as the guitars just sounded like WOMP WOMP WOMP! And when the chorus rolled around it didn't seem to take off like it should have.
It's a long midtempo song that not a lot of people know, and it did sound a bit muffled -- not surprising that it might have had the effect you describe. I personally have never experienced that "energy sucked out of the room" that people always describe -- I usually spend these shows pretty lost inside my own head...
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:31 pm
by yofismom
Kevin Davis wrote:
If the St. Louis show was a wild night of partying and vandalizing your neighborhood with your closest friends, this was the night where you and those same people stay up until 4am and tell each other your most intimate secrets. The decision to do "No Code" -- the record that essentially signaled the moment at which fans decided they were going to stick with or ditch the band -- felt like a very deliberate gesture of gratitude, and it wasn't garish or sentimental. It was just the band's very best music being played for a room full of people who knew it was special.
Those were the two shows I was at, and that captures it pretty well. The show felt almost surreally intimate last night. Ed going into the story about writing Around the Bend (though I don't know everyone liked the content of that story, which had to do with turning a lullaby for Jack Irons' son into a darker affair in which he imagines a serial killer singing to his freshest victim), then about writing the Moline song as a kind of counterpoint to Better Man...
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 5:36 pm
by jdopj
Coach wrote:
jdopj wrote:Why Moline? Why No Code? Very surprising.
Setlists have been somewhat underwhelming on this leg, hopefully it's a sign of the rest of the tour for those of us catching some shows.
Kinda reminds me of a "Phish move," you've got a band that's been around forever and every so often they pull out an unusual stunt for a live show since the catalog is so deep at this point.
Let's not question the "why" and just revel in the fact that they played arguably their best album live for the first time and it's def a nod to the super fans out there. Love it.
I agree. Just a bit jealous. Going to Milwaukee and Denver, afraid I might have missed the best one.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:02 pm
by mkay0
verb_to_trust wrote:
mkay0 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:No Code is their shortest record right? If they tried this with anything other than this or Ten I honestly don't think it would work...
Backspacer is far and away the shortest, at 37 minutes.
When you say you don't think it would work doing other records, what do you mean? Like, the band could not pull it off, or they would lose the crowd?
I think any record other than Ten and No Code and they lose the crowd. BS is short enough I guess but doesn't have the songs...
I actually think that they took a big risk playing No Code. I would put Ten and Vs at the top of the list, and Vitalogy (with the fat trimmed) and Yield on the next tier down. I think No Code and Binaural are on the third tier, and the most recent four records are all at the bottom.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:03 pm
by southp
This couldn't have happened to a nicer album.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:11 pm
by verb_to_trust
They can go ahead and just reissue the thing on vinyl now, right? You would think something like this would remind them
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:13 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
dimejinky99 wrote:
hankholetsgo wrote:Here's my take on last night. It was my 88th show, and my 14th since Wrigley Field, and my final show this year. I have accepted some of the parts of modern-day Pearl Jam shows that I like the least, such as Ed's ridiculous banter, the annoying shout outs and song request banter, the predictable unpredictability of the second encores, and the ridiculous stage antics, but I always walk away from a show totally happy and glad I came.
That said, it's been a while since my mind was fucking blown. Once the beginning of Who You Are started, I can't even fucking describe how stoked I was. The whole concept of playing albums front to back is something I really enjoy, and I would've enjoyed them doing this for any record, but I'm really glad it was No Code. When I think of No Code, it's signals the end of Pearl Jam's beginning and more easily accessible first three albums, and leads into my favorite three records, No Code, Yield, and Binaural. The significance of playing an album front to back that really alienated the casual fan, is pretty big, in my opinion.
Wasn't perfect no, where there's some flubs, yes, but ignoring that, it was amazing.
I haven't walked away from a show this excited in a long time and I really wish I could fit finish the rest of the shows on the tour but last night was it for me.
PS... If I never have to hear Imagine again I'll be a happy man; That is the worst fucking song ever written. Fucking cheesy and trite shit.
Self entitled/self righteous pj fan makes self righteous/self entitled post. You've seen too many shows.
Agreed. Kind of came off pompous. To the OP I'm sure you are a cool dude but saying PJ is predictable? I have to disagree. As far as setlists go can anyone think of a band who is well known who changes it up better? I really can't. To each their own I guess. Can't please everyone.
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:13 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
verb_to_trust wrote:They can go ahead and just reissue the thing on vinyl now, right? You would think something like this would remind them
Maybe the picture kept will remind them?
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:14 pm
by DeLima
pretty sweet
Re: 2014-10-17: Moline, IL
Posted: Sat October 18, 2014 6:20 pm
by DeLima
i think if you're gonna play the albums in a row, ten, vs, vitalogy (without the weird shit), and yield are all sure bets to keep the crowd at this point. no code is riskier, so good for them for picking it.
