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Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Tue June 28, 2022 6:48 pm
by Peeps
if someone says that are too irresponsible to be a parent maybe believe them


everyones acting like these unwanted pregnancies are because it just feels better to not wear a condom when the greater percentages are birth control failed and oops i drank too much to make a wise decision

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Tue June 28, 2022 7:04 pm
by Rob
Rob wrote:I am in 100% agreement that exceptions for anything other than the life of the mother are bullshit. The exception ends up undermining the basic argument.

Just want to make clear what I mean here. I am very much pro-choice. I’ve never understood how “abortion is wrong (murder)” but if conceived this way (rape/incest) we’ll grant an exception. That makes no sense to me. If you’re going to be pro-life, own it. Tell the rape victims, the women who get bad news at week 18, and whomever else that they’re fucked. We let the pro life side skate by with exceptions that end up undermining the very argument for why they want to outlaw it.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Tue June 28, 2022 7:37 pm
by BurtReynolds
tree_ wrote:It cannot be that difficult to create a baseline test to weed out most of the scum
Yet surprisingly it is

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Tue June 28, 2022 9:52 pm
by blueviper
I was going to ask what the percentage of women that have had more than one abortion. I figured if someone went through something like that, it would make them more likely not do it again (either by having a kid or having safer sex).

I guess that's not the case. NIH stated in a report that from a national sample of non-hospital abortion patients, 45% said they have had one or more prior abortions.

That seems pretty high. That seems like a failure in teaching people responsibility for their sexual behavior.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Tue June 28, 2022 10:08 pm
by McParadigm
blueviper wrote:NIH stated in a report that from a national sample of non-hospital abortion patients, 45% said they have had one or more prior abortions.

That seems pretty high. That seems like a failure in teaching people responsibility for their sexual behavior.
Not sure this describes a group who lack baseline awareness that behaviors have consequences
Age was most strongly associated with this outcome, and patients aged 30 and older had more than two times the odds of having had a prior abortion compared with those aged 20–24. Other characteristics associated with an increased likelihood of prior abortion included having one or more children, being black, relying on insurance or financial assistance to pay for the procedure, and exposure to disruptive events in the last 12 months.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 9:46 pm
by Bi_3
I hate this kind of post:

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It's so disingenuous. His hospital is a 70 minute Uber from a clinic in PA.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 10:09 pm
by Mickey
Oh sure just a 70 minute Uber.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 10:22 pm
by B
These problems only occur within 70 minutes of the clinics in states that allow abortions.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 10:35 pm
by tree_
Bi_3 wrote:I hate this kind of post:

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It's so disingenuous. His hospital is a 70 minute Uber from a clinic in PA.
The reality remains that doctors will be obligated to tell their patients this, as a trusted source. And it does suck for them and patient alike, but in different ways.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 10:35 pm
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:I hate this kind of post:

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It's so disingenuous. His hospital is a 70 minute Uber from a clinic in PA.
I hate this kind of post.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 10:46 pm
by Bammer
How will Bi_3 ever recover from this

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:03 pm
by tree_
I fear the account’s frustrations have clouded its judgement

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:19 pm
by Bi_3
Mickey wrote:Oh sure just a 70 minute Uber.
Correct! And with the changes in affect in Ohio that place is gonna make a killing.
B wrote:These problems only occur within 70 minutes of the clinics in states that allow abortions.
Incorrect! Birthing Bodies in the South in this grave of a situation will likely not have Uber as an option and may need to fly or take a bus.
tree_ wrote:The reality remains that doctors will be obligated to tell their patients this, as a trusted source. And it does suck for them and patient alike, but in different ways.
Incorrect! It's a despicable law for sure, but he doesn't need to say that at all when there are viable alternatives reasonably close by. The tweet's worded as a shock statement to show how evil "they" are and how righteous Dr. H is, not to convey the disgusting burden placed on women to travel for medical care in this situation or he would have mentioned the alternative. And I would bet, absent my context, no one here would have even bothered to see if it was true and instead reveled in the thought of another dead baby and destroyed parent that they can blame on the red team.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:24 pm
by tree_
poor people most often can’t so easily come to such a conviction as to undergo such a commitment and undertaking

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:24 pm
by spike
Bi_3 wrote:
Mickey wrote:Oh sure just a 70 minute Uber.
Correct! And with the changes in affect in Ohio that place is gonna make a killing.
B wrote:These problems only occur within 70 minutes of the clinics in states that allow abortions.
Incorrect! Birthing Bodies in the South in this grave of a situation will likely not have Uber as an option and may need to fly or take a bus.
tree_ wrote:The reality remains that doctors will be obligated to tell their patients this, as a trusted source. And it does suck for them and patient alike, but in different ways.
Incorrect! It's a despicable law for sure, but he doesn't need to say that at all when there are viable alternatives reasonably close by. The tweet's worded as a shock statement to show how evil "they" are and how righteous Dr. H is, not to convey the disgusting burden placed on women to travel for medical care in this situation or he would have mentioned the alternative. And I would bet, absent my context, no one here would have even bothered to see if it was true and instead reveled in the thought of another dead baby and destroyed parent that they can blame on the red team.
Might be time to get off Twitter, man.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:40 pm
by Mickey
Bi_3 wrote:
Mickey wrote:Oh sure just a 70 minute Uber.
Correct! And with the changes in affect in Ohio that place is gonna make a killing.
*effect.
Bi_3 wrote:
tree_ wrote:The reality remains that doctors will be obligated to tell their patients this, as a trusted source. And it does suck for them and patient alike, but in different ways.
Incorrect! It's a despicable law for sure, but he doesn't need to say that at all when there are viable alternatives reasonably close by. The tweet's worded as a shock statement to show how evil "they" are and how righteous Dr. H is, not to convey the disgusting burden placed on women to travel for medical care in this situation or he would have mentioned the alternative. And I would bet, absent my context, no one here would have even bothered to see if it was true and instead reveled in the thought of another dead baby and destroyed parent that they can blame on the red team.
Good point, "poor people can simply take a $300 Uber, or a plane or a bus" definitely constitutes a "viable alternative."

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:41 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Bi_3 wrote: Correct! And with the changes in affect in Ohio that place is gonna make a killing.
Did you use these words on purpose?

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:43 pm
by Mickey
In other words, you're not the only genius who realized that some women might leave the state of Ohio rather than wait for their trisomy-13 baby to die inside of their womb. You're just the only dipshit who thinks this option is universally available.

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Wed June 29, 2022 11:59 pm
by tree_
Let’s be clear that this is about discriminating the poor

Re: Women's Health Issues

Posted: Thu June 30, 2022 12:00 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE