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Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I've said this before, but I kinda agree with mikejason. There are some songs on Audioslave's first album that I think are way better than any SG song.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:10 pm
by evenslow
"Way" better? Come on.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:12 pm
by doone
stip wrote:that's also the top item on the main page of the official site, with the heading Chris. I guess there aren't words yet.


Oddly enough, that's maybe been the most moving thing I've seen yet.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:27 pm
by wease
evenslow wrote:btw mods can we get this out of the Pearl Jam section? I keep forgetting about it. Help me.
Sarge says no.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 1:34 pm
by evenslow
wease wrote:
evenslow wrote:btw mods can we get this out of the Pearl Jam section? I keep forgetting about it. Help me.
Sarge says no.
Sarge went back in the jungle. I'm still here fighting the fight.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:02 pm
by VinylGuy
stip wrote:that's also the top item on the main page of the official site, with the heading Chris. I guess there aren't words yet.


Oddly enough, that's maybe been the most moving thing I've seen yet.
Agreed. His name with that pic. Gosh.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:05 pm
by burl jam
I remember when we saw him in 2012 on his Songbook tour he mentioned the 'questionable third album' he made. He joked that people would say to him "what did Timbaland make you do" and Chris would say listen "Timbaland didn't tie me down, didn't strap me into a chair. I chose to do that album that way, it was all me."

Made me smile thinking about it. He had a pretty solid sense of humour.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:08 pm
by VinylGuy
burl jam wrote:I remember when we saw him in 2012 on his Songbook tour he mentioned the 'questionable third album' he made. He joked that people would say to him "what did Timbaland make you do" and Chris would say listen "Timbaland didn't tie me down, didn't strap me into a chair. I chose to do that album that way, it was all me."

Made me smile thinking about it. He had a pretty solid sense of humour.
He was hilariously deadpan. The interviews with SG in the mid 90s are awesome.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:08 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:25 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:32 pm
by VinylGuy
Revelations is such a cool album.. Wide Awake is great...Moth too. It makes me wonder how a 4th album would have sounded, they were getting into a pretty cool territory.

I dont quite like Out Of Exile besides the singles, 1#zero and The Curse.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:34 pm
by burl jam
tragabigzanda wrote:Taking my first spin through Audioslave's Revelations

If I mostly hated the first album, but really like this one, what am I apt to think of the second record?
I always thought it was nice that they released an album so soon after the second one. Revelations for me is the most band-like album of the three, and it's great to hear them becoming something new. Out of Exile is prob the weakest but has a couple of cool moments.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:38 pm
by evenslow
Jessica Letkemann wrote:"I never wanted to write these words down for you….”
The group text came at 3:30 in the morning from the biggest Soundgarden fan I know. A fan who’d loved the band since the late 80s, and who wore the same ratty 1990 tour shirt to every Pearl Jam and Soundgarden related show we ever went to.

The text woke me from a fitful sleep and immediately the hot, stifling New York humidity made it feel hard to breathe, but I suspected it wasn’t the weather causing the feeling.
As the morning wore on, pretty much everyone I know was in mourning after hearing that Chris Cornell had died in a Detroit hotel room overnight, and that suicide was being investigated. The Soundgarden and Pearl Jam communities are obviously and warmly intertwined, and every single person was saddened by the news.

Some had seen Chris perform just last night at Detroit’s Fox Theatre, just hours before his death. Some of us mentally went back to those incredible Temple of the Dog shows from last November we still can’t believe we were lucky enough to see. Many more remember the joy of countless Soundgarden and solo shows over the decades, and Chris’ special pop-ups like Santa Barbara 2003 and PJ20 where SG and PJ melded momentarily. But all of us went right to Chris’ huge body of music.

It’s the only thing I can think of to start processing this tragedy.

Inside those countless songs, there’s so much power and catharsis and raw emotion. Chris seemed to channel those things there so well with his amazing voice and songwriting chops.
I never knew him personally, though I feel extremely fortunate to have interviewed him a few times. I did, of course, follow his career, listen to his music, and of course, go to see him live many times over the years. And the Seattle music historian in me always listened carefully to what he had to say because he remembered the details of the scene in the most clear-headed and articulate way. “I am a witness,” he once told me. “And I have a good memory.”

To me, he often seemed to have an ease with things. It was Chris, after all, that coaxed the first ever recorded guitar solo out of Mike McCready. He shared a duet with Eddie Vedder before Pearl Jam even really existed, and he certainly took Ed under his wing in those early, crazy days. It was Chris and his Soundgarden bandmates who were among the first of the Seattle bands to navigate the waters from tiny club to massive arenas.

In recent years, from the outside, it seemed like he was having a great time. Married with three kids he loved dearly and obviously, Chris always seemed to be out on the road with his own solo shows or with the reunited Soundgarden.

Among many emotions, his “sudden and unexpected” death already feels like a painful reminder to me that no matter how ok someone seems to be on the outside, you never really know the hurt inside them. There are plenty of people who are, to borrow the lyric, “looking California,” but “feeling Minnesota.”

It feels important right now to try harder to take a second out to treat each other with more kindness. You never know how it can help.

“It seems like too much love is never enough…”
-Jessica

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:39 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:40 pm
by bodysnatcher
Simple Torture wrote:
See, this is the stuff that kills me. We can all be very sad bc we lost an artist that we all enjoyed, admired, and were inspired by. But the people who lost a true friend, regardless of who they were to the rest of the world. A dad, a husband, a friend who just hung out with you and your dog.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:20 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote: The circumstances of his death have made me view his lesser works through a different lens. Where before I saw this album as the act of a guy grasping for relevance, now I'm seeing an emotionally volatile person who had learned to use music as an outlet for his darkness. It doesn't make the album any better, but I can appreciate where he was coming from better I think.

Why not both? It's the challenge that all non-straight pop acts face, balancing the artistic expression of self and the benefits of commercial success. Chris' lifes challenges were compounded by the fact that he was largely the founder of the Seattle scene but still lingered behind Nirvana and Pearl Jam in terms of commercial draw and name recognition. So he was basically first to the race, and one of the best, but was always behind on the popularity curve and despite what many people say, from a psychological perspective it matters. Kinda the Scotty Pippen of grunge. Continually tapping that darkness in his soul for material, at his age when men question their legacy, and with such wild results.. fronting Eddie's Pearl Jam he sells out MSG in minutes, while fronting his own band Soundgarden his success is far less... would be emotionally difficult for anyone, but for a person who has struggled like Chris apparently did, it must have been a strange weight to add to his burdens. I don't say this to imply that his tragic death was predictable or that he was a spoiled resentful old man, but to say that his life was all the more remarkable for his ability to keep holding to his art through all of it, where most people would have given in long ago.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:27 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:30 pm
by wease
bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
See, this is the stuff that kills me. We can all be very sad bc we lost an artist that we all enjoyed, admired, and were inspired by. But the people who lost a true friend, regardless of who they were to the rest of the world. A dad, a husband, a friend who just hung out with you and your dog.
Yeah.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:33 pm
by wease
evenslow wrote:
wease wrote:
evenslow wrote:btw mods can we get this out of the Pearl Jam section? I keep forgetting about it. Help me.
Sarge says no.
Sarge went back in the jungle. I'm still here fighting the fight.
I think he's still here. He's just sacrificing all us grunts now.

Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:46 pm
by malice
wease wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
See, this is the stuff that kills me. We can all be very sad bc we lost an artist that we all enjoyed, admired, and were inspired by. But the people who lost a true friend, regardless of who they were to the rest of the world. A dad, a husband, a friend who just hung out with you and your dog.
Yeah.