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Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Tue December 03, 2013 4:11 pm
by epilogue
Mecca wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Mecca wrote:he didn't agree with the way the story was going, apparently.
That really sucks. So the character will be dropped/written out instead of replacing the actor?
likely Marnie's character arc will be about finally getting over charlie because it just wasn't working out, writing him out of the show.
I genuinely hope they kill him off. Off screen. He's just dead. And can never come back.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Wed December 04, 2013 1:13 pm
by Chloe
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:"that wasn't sex, you came in my thigh crease"
And d,t
What were your thoughts on the one mans trash episode ?
I thought it was crazy that she spent 2 days banging a dude she had just met, but so much of the show is crazy that nothing much shocks me anymore


I knew that little skank was going to bang Frank.
Lena strangely enough makes me want to play ping pong in nothing but my underwear now. I f'in love her!
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Wed December 04, 2013 1:15 pm
by Chloe
durdencommatyler wrote:Mecca wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Mecca wrote:he didn't agree with the way the story was going, apparently.
That really sucks. So the character will be dropped/written out instead of replacing the actor?
likely Marnie's character arc will be about finally getting over charlie because it just wasn't working out, writing him out of the show.
I genuinely hope they kill him off. Off screen. He's just dead. And can never come back.
This makes me sad. Not that I'll really miss Charlie but watching Marnie whine about the same things for half a season is just meh.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Wed December 04, 2013 1:44 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Chloe wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Mecca wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Mecca wrote:he didn't agree with the way the story was going, apparently.
That really sucks. So the character will be dropped/written out instead of replacing the actor?
likely Marnie's character arc will be about finally getting over charlie because it just wasn't working out, writing him out of the show.
I genuinely hope they kill him off. Off screen. He's just dead. And can never come back.
This makes me sad. Not that I'll really miss Charlie but watching Marnie whine about the same things for half a season is just meh.
yep, i was hoping she would shut up a little bit more in this next season now, i guess not though
btw i got home from work yesterday and lyn had watched both seasons on the dvr

Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Wed December 04, 2013 1:47 pm
by Chloe
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Chloe wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Mecca wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Mecca wrote:he didn't agree with the way the story was going, apparently.
That really sucks. So the character will be dropped/written out instead of replacing the actor?
likely Marnie's character arc will be about finally getting over charlie because it just wasn't working out, writing him out of the show.
I genuinely hope they kill him off. Off screen. He's just dead. And can never come back.
This makes me sad. Not that I'll really miss Charlie but watching Marnie whine about the same things for half a season is just meh.
yep, i was hoping she would shut up a little bit more in this next season now, i guess not though
btw i got home from work yesterday and lyn had watched both seasons on the dvr

Yeah, she's hooked. She told me she wished Hannah would wear clothes more often

Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Wed December 04, 2013 1:48 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Chloe wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Chloe wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Mecca wrote:Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Mecca wrote:he didn't agree with the way the story was going, apparently.
That really sucks. So the character will be dropped/written out instead of replacing the actor?
likely Marnie's character arc will be about finally getting over charlie because it just wasn't working out, writing him out of the show.
I genuinely hope they kill him off. Off screen. He's just dead. And can never come back.
This makes me sad. Not that I'll really miss Charlie but watching Marnie whine about the same things for half a season is just meh.
yep, i was hoping she would shut up a little bit more in this next season now, i guess not though
btw i got home from work yesterday and lyn had watched both seasons on the dvr

Yeah, she's hooked. She told me she wished Hannah would wear clothes more often


thats awesome
after she watched the last episode i tolder her that charlie wouldnt be back next season and she was sad
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Mon January 06, 2014 1:55 pm
by broken iris
Just finished this up.
Got strangely dark at the end there.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Mon January 06, 2014 2:09 pm
by VinylGuy
broken iris wrote:Just finished this up.
Got strangely dark at the end there.
The new season should be darker.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Mon January 06, 2014 2:47 pm
by broken iris
VinylGuy wrote:broken iris wrote:Just finished this up.
Got strangely dark at the end there.
The new season should be darker.
I don't know how much longer I would want to watch the characters suffer through no fault of their own (other than their failed attempts at adulthood). Life is a struggle when you are young and I assume it's worse for artists who choose to live in New York, but suffering shouldn't define you and without some glimmer of hope I may end up just pitying them, which would make for a miserable viewing experience.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 2:15 am
by Harry Lime

Judd Apatow calling someone else "offensive". That's funny.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/judd-apatow-le ... 43887.html
Why is Lena Dunham’s character on “Girls” naked so much?
That question made Dunham and her fellow “Girls” executive producers, Judd Apatow and Jenni Konner, mad at me Thursday during a Television Critics Association panel. Apatow later said my question was sexist, offensive and misogynistic. He asked me to transcribe what I asked and re-read what I asked Dunham, so here it is:
“I don’t get the purpose of all the nudity on the show. By you particularly. I feel like I’m walking into a trap where you say no one complains about the nudity on ‘Game of Thrones,’ but I get why they’re doing it. They’re doing it to be salacious. To titillate people. And your character is often naked at random times for no reason.”
Dunham said she was naked on the show because people are naked sometimes.
“Yeah. It’s because it’s a realistic expression of what it’s like to be alive, I think, and I totally get it. If you are not into me, that’s your problem,” she said.
Huh? But I didn’t say that. The conversation continued its personal turn as Apatow asked if I had a girlfriend.
“Sure,” I said.
“Does she like you?”
“Yeah.”
“Let’s see how she likes you when you quote that with your question and just write the whole question… and tell me how it goes tonight.”
Actually, my girlfriend has wondered about this, too. Here’s why.
“Girls” has more nudity by its lead character than any show, well, ever. But my girlfriend and I don’t understand the reason for it. We’re cool with nudity, and if Dunham wants to be naked, great. I’m not offended by it. I don’t like it or not like it. I just don’t get the artistic reason for it, and want to understand it, because I’m a TV critic.
Later in the panel executive producer Jenni Konner said she didn’t understand why I thought I could “talk to a woman” that way.
Huh? Talk to her like a writer who has made a bold creative decision?
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Dunham left after the panel. But Apatow stuck around, and we talked about my question, which he said was “offensive on its face.”
“You should read it and discuss it with other people,” he told me. “It is very offensive.”
“Is it sexist?” I asked. “Because I would ask the same question –”
“It’s sexist and offensive, it’s misogynistic,” he said.
“I’m not saying it’s bad that she’s nude,” I said.
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Another reporter noted that if Louis C.K. were naked on his show, we would ask about it.
“There’s a way to word a question about the reason for nudity on the show and it was not done elegantly. If you re-read it and you listen to it you will not be proud of yourself.”
“I’m not un-proud of myself in any way because everyone I know has wondered the same thing. I don’t understand as a writer, what the reason for it is. I’m not against it.”
“That’s another thing. It shows a lack of depth in how you watch the show.”
“I watch the show really deeply, actually,” I said. “I’m trying to understand it as a TV critic. That’s my job.”
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“As a TV critic you don’t understand why a show about young people in New York who spend some of their time naked, and some of their time having sex, includes women who sometimes are naked and sometimes have sex?”
“Then why aren’t all of the characters naked?” I asked.
He said a show about me would feature me naked some of the time.
“Then why aren’t all the characters in your movies naked some of the time? … Paul Rudd wasn’t naked,” I added, referring to “This Is 40.’”
“There’s male nudity in ‘Walk Hard,’” he said. “I have people naked when they’re willing to do it. Lena is confident enough to do it so we have the opportunity to talk about other issues because she is braver than other people. If Paul Rudd said to me, I’m willing to be completely naked in the movie, I would use it. If Seth [Rogen] said he was willing to be completely naked — he showed his butt in a post-sex scene in ‘Knocked Up’ — I would use it because it’s more honest.”
“Well then that’s the answer,” I said.
“Read how you asked the question,” he said.
“I said that on ‘Game of Thrones’ they do it for salacious purposes. I’m not giving ‘Game of Thrones’ credit for that. ‘Salacious’ doesn’t have a positive connotation.”
“Just listen to yourself,” he said.
I did. To transcribe my recording of this exchange.
“I’m really, truly stupid then, because I don’t understand,” I said.
“Maybe you just got nervous how you asked it and it came out much darker, edgier and negative than you realized.”
I checked with my girlfriend. She’s cool with what I asked.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 2:38 am
by Jorge
This is a more thoughtful response than that idiotic article deserves:
http://entertainment.time.com/2014/01/1 ... tillating/
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 3:14 am
by VinylGuy
The whole nude issue is boring at this stage. Its old news.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 3:44 am
by Harry Lime
I think Leah Dunham should have been more honest. Unless she thinks that the reporter didn't deserve her full indulgence. You also get naked on the show, Dunham, so you can tell everyone that, "Hey, big girls can get naked and feel comfortable on camera too!"
Worthy statement, but why be so coy about it? Or has she explained this before?
My jealousy of Dunham's success still runs deep, and therefore I continue to be infatuated with her. Sorry, Vinylguy
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 3:44 am
by epilogue
Thank you for this. I was already thinking about a response to Orson's post. This says everything I was going to say in a much more sysinct and level-headed fashion.
And I totally agree with Ms Gibson. She nails it.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 3:51 am
by Harry Lime
Hey, joey, you're a fan. Tell me the reasons why you like this show.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 3:58 am
by epilogue
Brilliant writing. Brilliant directing. Wonderful performances. Honest. Hilarious. Groundbreaking. Gripping. Brutal. Love the characters, even the ones I hate. Raw. Beautiful. Unlike anything else I've seen.
Lina Dunham is a gifted artist and we're lucky to have her voice and vision.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 4:00 am
by Harry Lime
durdencommatyler wrote:Brilliant writing. Brilliant directing. Wonderful performances. Honest. Hilarious. Groundbreaking. Gripping. Brutal. Love the characters, even the ones I hate. Raw. Beautiful. Unlike anything else I've seen.
Lina Dunham is a gifted artist and we're lucky to have her voice and vision.
Man, okay. I guess I'll have to give it another look.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 7:26 am
by Mecca
Think of it as a drama and you'll appreciate it more.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 8:06 am
by Harry Lime
Naw, I don't even know why I'm trying so hard. I don't care about the characters and their prolems. Life as a 20-something in New York is so hard with relationships & growing up blah blah blah. I'm struggling too but I'm not going to write about it. I don't think it's interesting. To each their own.
But tell me, Dunham's character wants to be a writer, correct? Does her character ever talk about what she wants to write about? The things she wants to say? I think if Dunham wrote about what her character wants to write about, she'd have more interesting material.
Re: TV: Girls
Posted: Sat January 11, 2014 1:25 pm
by epilogue
Hannah constantly talks about what she wants to write about and what she is writing about. There are entire episodes about it.