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I haven't noticed a big difference. I think alot of people that hear a difference is just the fact that vinyl listening is a little more hands on, and you tend to pay more attention.

No Code sounds great. Vitalogy too..fuck, even ST...

@SkitchP wrote:Vinyl typically results in a lot more discussions about what you own, and why yours is better.

pretty much. I think it's a nostalgia thing mostly - I have about as many albums on CD as on vinyl, and a ton more on my PC than either, but hold a lot of sentiment for the records (the vinyl, as everyone calls them now other than me, apparently) because it's my first experience with collecting music that was my own, and the associated memories of sitting in my room as a teen listening to and reading the lyrics of a new album etc.

I still have a record player than I bought over 20 years ago, and it's still in good condition. I find myself dragging out an album from my teen years and putting it on just to listen to the crackle of the vinyl even though the sound would be much cleaner sounding from my pc or whatever.

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I haven't noticed a big difference. I think alot of people that hear a difference is just the fact that vinyl listening is a little more hands on, and you tend to pay more attention.

It's not that. What ultimately matters the most is the mastering. I mean it's what makes the most noticeable difference. It's not limited to the CD vs. vinyl comparison though. This is especially obvious with records that where released before the CD existed. Usually the original version will sound better than the CD version or versions because 1st and foremost more care was put into the mastering of the vinyl than the CDs, which is usually the case. CD quality is lower than vinyl as far as specifications are concerned except that in theory CD allows for a wider dynamic range.

Honestly. Self Titled sounds pretty shitty on vinyl. I'm shocked at how high it goes for now. I used to have two and thought I was lucky I got $150 for it a couple years ago. The original Vitalogy, No Code and Yield pressings sounds pretty amazing and I think the sound is more balanced than the CD but might have a lot to do with the quality of my sounds system at home as opposed to my car where I listen to CD's. I think more than anything with vinyl I like the intimacy of it. I put it on when I want to dive into an album. I'm not an expert on the lingo but of any sound difference bass and drums usually seem to have more of a presence on vinyl to my ears.

Has anyone actually spun the Sevens boxed set? I haven't played mine but I'm curious if the sounds is crisper. Does the RPM and size of the record have anything at all to do with sounds quality? Throw some knowledge this way.

veddar10 wrote:but might have a lot to do with the quality of my sounds system at home as opposed to my car where I listen to CD's

This has a lot to do with it.

veddar10 wrote:

Has anyone actually spun the Sevens boxed set? I haven't played mine but I'm curious if the sounds is crisper. Does the RPM and size of the record have anything at all to do with sounds quality? Throw some knowledge this way.

I haven't received mine yet, but I've heard that some of the records are 45rpm which would mean they would sound better (hypothetically) than the standard LP. Overall, LB sounds great on vinyl because of the different mastering. S/T sounds pretty crap because it's already over-compressed and they used the same masters for the vinyl.

Mine wrote:

Oh, Jimmy wrote:I haven't noticed a big difference. I think alot of people that hear a difference is just the fact that vinyl listening is a little more hands on, and you tend to pay more attention.

It's not that. What ultimately matters the most is the mastering. I mean it's what makes the most noticeable difference. It's not limited to the CD vs. vinyl comparison though. This is especially obvious with records that where released before the CD existed. Usually the original version will sound better than the CD version or versions because 1st and foremost more care was put into the mastering of the vinyl than the CDs, which is usually the case. CD quality is lower than vinyl as far as specifications are concerned except that in theory CD allows for a wider dynamic range.

I was just speaking in relation to PJ vinyl.

I was under the impression that vinyl allowed for a broader dynamic range than standard cd's and hdcd and sacd were pretty comparable to good vinyl pressings.