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Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 3:19 pm
by Meddle
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:The first album isn't very good. It's basically a tossed-off novelty. The other three albums have some fantastic songs, but they are padded out with instrumental experiments and other bullshit. If you isolate all of the best songs, it fills up a CDR, and it's a CDR that will never leave your CD player.
What are their standout songs that belong on a CDR? I have S/T, but I haven't listened to it in years. I want to give them another look.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 8:19 pm
by zeb
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
washing machine wrote:I will say, I was taken by surprise with the debut. I don't know what I imagined this group sounding like, but it wasn't this.
The first album isn't very good. It's basically a tossed-off novelty. The other three albums have some fantastic songs, but they are padded out with instrumental experiments and other bullshit.
I disagree with quite a bit of this.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 8:21 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
zeb wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
washing machine wrote:I will say, I was taken by surprise with the debut. I don't know what I imagined this group sounding like, but it wasn't this.
The first album isn't very good. It's basically a tossed-off novelty. The other three albums have some fantastic songs, but they are padded out with instrumental experiments and other bullshit.
I disagree with quite a bit of this.
Same here. The first album has Nati Bati Yi on it, and one of my favorites, Palomar Observatory.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 10:38 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
Meddle wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:The first album isn't very good. It's basically a tossed-off novelty. The other three albums have some fantastic songs, but they are padded out with instrumental experiments and other bullshit. If you isolate all of the best songs, it fills up a CDR, and it's a CDR that will never leave your CD player.
What are their standout songs that belong on a CDR? I have S/T, but I haven't listened to it in years. I want to give them another look.
Here are the full liners that I typed out...

WELLWATER CONSPIRACY
(Compilation)
=============
01 Compellor (Cameron/McBain) [3:21]
02 Teen Lambchop (Cameron/McBain) [3:16]
03 Red Light Green Light (Cameron/McBain) [2:58]
04 Van Vanishing (Cameron) [4:56]
05 Right Of Left Field (Cameron/McBain) [3:43]
06 Ladder To The Moon (Cameron/McBain) [3:22]
07 Good Pushin’ (Cameron/McBain) [2:38]
08 Tidepool Telegraph (McBain/Burns) [5:00]
09 I Got Nightmares (Q65) [2:17]
10 C Myself And Eye (Cameron) [4:08]
11 Tick Tock 3 O’ Clock (Cameron/McBain/Burns/Burback) [1:42]
12 What Becomes Of The Clock (McBain/Amandes) [4:08]
13 Felicity’s Surprise (McBain/Vedder) [1:48]
14 Now, Invisibly (Cameron) [2:38]
15 Of Dreams (Morgan) [3:36]
16 The Scroll (Cameron/McBain) [3:43]
17 Wimple Witch (Cameron/McBain) [2:39]
18 Galaxy 265 (McBain/Amandes) [2:50]
19 Night Sky (Cameron/McBain) [2:37]
20 Dragonwyck (Cameron/McBain) [3:20]
21 Sea Miner (Cameron/McBain/Slater) [4:36]
22 Crow Revolt (Cameron/McBain) [3:48]
23 My Darker Bongo (Cameron/McBain) [3:43]

=======================================

WELLWATER CONSPIRACY is:
Matt Cameron – vocals, drums, guitar, keyboards, bass
John McBain – guitar, bass, keyboards, drums, screams

WITH:
Glenn Slater – keyboards, synthesizer, piano on 03 and 17-23
Josh Homme – vocals on 02,03,06 & bass guitar on 06,07
Derek Burns – vocals on 08 and 11
Gerry Amandes – vocals on 12 & quasi-horns on 18
Eddie Vedder – vocals on 13
Paul Burback – additional vocals on 08 and 11
Kim Thayil – additional guitar on 10 and 16
Amy Denio – saxophone on 11
April Cameron – viola on 11-13
Justine Foy – cello on 11-13
Gregg Keplinger – bongos on 23

=======================================

TRACKS 01-07 from "BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRIC: OPERATIONAL DIRECTIVES"
RECORDED at SPACE STUDIO and STUDIO LITHO, SEATTLE WA
PRODUCED and MIXED by WELLWATER CONSPIRACY
CO-PRODUCED by ADAM KASPER
MIXING ASSISTANCE by JOHN BURTON
MASTERED by JOHN GOLDEN
RELEASED on February 9, 1999 (Time Bomb 70930-43523-2)

TRACKS 08-16 from "THE SCROLL AND ITS COMBINATIONS"
RECORDED at SPACE STUDIO, SEATTLE WA
PRODUCED and MIXED by ADAM KASPER with WELLWATER CONSPIRACY
MASTERED by ED BROOKS
RELEASED on May 22, 2001 (TVT 3370-2)

TRACKS 17-23 from "WELLWATER CONSPIRACY"
RECORDED at SPACE STUDIO, SEATTLE WA
PRODUCED by WELLWATER CONSPIRACY
MIXED by ADAM KASPER with JACK ENDINO & KEVIN SUGGS
MASTERED by CHRIS HANZSEK
RELEASED on September 9, 2003 (Transdreamer/Megaforce MEGA1991)

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 10:54 pm
by Birds in Hell
:nice:

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 11:43 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Sea Miner is so good

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Tue April 19, 2016 11:57 pm
by VinylGuy
I love the first one. Ben fuckin Shepherd is there. Whats not to love?

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Wed April 20, 2016 12:53 am
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
VinylGuy wrote:I love the first one. Ben fuckin Shepherd is there. Whats not to love?
I didn't say that I didn't like it. It's just...rather slight compared to the other three...which are a lot more "serious" in terms of having thought put into them. I'm also not *wild* about Ben Sheperd's voice. It reminds me a lot of Roky Erikson and thus sounds odd and out of place (and more like shrill whining a'la Kevin Coyne) in such blatantly "poppy" music.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Wed April 20, 2016 1:40 am
by VinylGuy
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:I love the first one. Ben fuckin Shepherd is there. Whats not to love?
I didn't say that I didn't like it. It's just...rather slight compared to the other three...which are a lot more "serious" in terms of having thought put into them. I'm also not *wild* about Ben Sheperd's voice. It reminds me a lot of Roky Erikson and thus sounds odd and out of place (and more like shrill whining a'la Kevin Coyne) in such blatantly "poppy" music.
i get that, but i think i love how different it sounds. And did you hear Ben solo album?

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Wed April 20, 2016 2:19 am
by zeb
What have you got against Born With A Tail, WCT?

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 6:03 pm
by Leatherhead
Why the fuck isn't The Scroll and its Combinations on Spotify? Having to listen to this shit on Youtube, wtf.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Mon October 25, 2021 9:34 pm
by VinylGuy
thats the only one i have on CD, bought it maybe in 2003 on tower fucking records.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Mon October 23, 2023 11:41 am
by joostone
Their debut record got a re-release on vinyl! Just received it, looks great!

https://godunknownrecords.bandcamp.com/ ... conformity

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Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Mon October 23, 2023 1:10 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Oh shit I didn't know about that. Gonna see if I can still get it.

Re: Brotherhood of Electric: A Wellwater Conspiracy thread

Posted: Mon October 23, 2023 1:44 pm
by VinylGuy
Thats a great one