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Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 6:49 pm
by epilogue
Up is a terrific record. Just fantastic.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:11 pm
by stip
Look, at the bare minimum they're all at least really good. It's just that I think up is really good and I think Accelerate is great.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:28 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:Look, at the bare minimum they're all at least really good. It's just that I think up is really good and I think Accelerate is great.
Sure, sure. And folks will pick on you for that. But fuck 'em!

I remember Accelerate being a fairly mediocre record. I wouldn't even call it really good. But I need to revisit that one. It's been a while. Up, however, I listen to often and I think it's stellar.

But I ain't gonna hate anyone saying the opposite or digging on Accelerate.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:32 pm
by stip
Up's got a few too many dud songs for me (and even a few stick out like sore thumb on an REM record)--and in general I think this is the album where I am the least in love with Stipe's vocals.


Accelerate may benefit from an S/T style bump for me where it is an aggressive and energetic record I wasn't sure they still had in them. But it's also such a sharp quick angular listen, and almost every song is really good.

Plus I'm Gonna DJ has one of my favorite bass parts ever.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:45 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:Up's got a few too many dud songs for me (and even a few stick out like sore thumb on an REM record)--and in general I think this is the album where I am the least in love with Stipe's vocals.
That makes total sense to me. For you, I mean.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:49 pm
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.
:thumbsup:

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:52 pm
by Norah
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.
:thumbsup:

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.
Green is absolutely on the big boy level.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:01 pm
by stip
You know what. Let's just start and not have a time limit until monday

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:01 pm
by stip
Whoops

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:10 pm
by Norah
Let's go Lament!

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:11 pm
by Norah
whoops

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:26 pm
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.
:thumbsup:

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.
Green is absolutely on the big boy level.
No, fuck you!

But seriously ... I'm usually not wrong about these things.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:46 pm
by epilogue
At the end of the day, I'm good. Because I've got my spine, I've got my orange crush.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:57 pm
by Kaius
Orange Crush really stands out. Easily the best song.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:32 pm
by Kevin Davis
stip wrote:Up's got a few too many dud songs for me (and even a few stick out like sore thumb on an REM record)--and in general I think this is the album where I am the least in love with Stipe's vocals.


Accelerate may benefit from an S/T style bump for me where it is an aggressive and energetic record I wasn't sure they still had in them. But it's also such a sharp quick angular listen, and almost every song is really good.

Plus I'm Gonna DJ has one of my favorite bass parts ever.
''Accelerate'' is a tremendous record--''S/T'' is a credible comparison in terms of the role it was intended to play in the band's career but ''Accelerate'' is just so much better, nimble and effortless where ''S/T'' mostly just feels cumbersome and forced. It's like ''Reckoning'' and ''Life's Rich Pageant'' only with twenty more years of songwriting experience and band communication behind it, and after ''Live at the Olympia'' it's clear how much study of that old music went into it. A spring-loaded burst of energy, and top-shelf REM in my opinion.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:04 pm
by Norah
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Monster is so fucking good.
:thumbsup:

The Out of Time-Automatic-Monster-Hi Fi run is about as good as it gets.
Expand that to include Green and Up.
I don't think Green is on the big boy level, though it shows flashes. I plan on getting into the post-berry stuff tonight after work.
Green is absolutely on the big boy level.
No, fuck you!

But seriously ... I'm usually not wrong about these things.
Green might be better than Out Of Time, and I love Out Of Time.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:04 pm
by stip
I agree accelerate is better

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:05 pm
by Norah
Kaius wrote:Orange Crush really stands out. Easily the best song.
You spelled You Are The Everything wrong.

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:21 am
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Kaius wrote:Orange Crush really stands out. Easily the best song.
You spelled You Are The Everything wrong.
8-)

Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:29 am
by Kevin Davis
I just listened to the first disc of ''Olympia''--crap they were an amazing band.