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Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 3:24 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 3:27 pm
by VinylGuy
Also James Mangold should have been nominated for Ford vs Ferrari.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:12 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
I see the Oscars are still taking the diversity thing seriously
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:19 pm
by dimejinky99
So a film gets a best film nod but it’s director doesn’t.
Awards are fucking dumb
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:27 pm
by VinylGuy
dimejinky99 wrote:So a film gets a best film nod but it’s director doesn’t.
Awards are fucking dumb
in the case of Ford Vs Ferrari, not only they dont nominate Mangold but they dont even care to nominate the cast or the script. Why the best film nod then?
Stupid.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:32 pm
by wease
VinylGuy wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:So a film gets a best film nod but it’s director doesn’t.
Awards are fucking dumb
in the case of Ford Vs Ferrari, not only they dont nominate Mangold but they dont even care to nominate the cast or the script. Why the best film nod then?
Stupid.
It was one of the best films, but all the actors sucked. The script sucked. And the director sucked. Wonderful film, tho.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:34 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:So a film gets a best film nod but it’s director doesn’t.
Awards are fucking dumb
I think that happened with A Few Good Men too? Best actor, best picture, best screenplay, no best director?
Reiner couldn’t handle the truth.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 5:34 pm
by VinylGuy
wease wrote:VinylGuy wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:So a film gets a best film nod but it’s director doesn’t.
Awards are fucking dumb
in the case of Ford Vs Ferrari, not only they dont nominate Mangold but they dont even care to nominate the cast or the script. Why the best film nod then?
Stupid.
It was one of the best films, but all the actors sucked. The script sucked. And the director sucked. Wonderful film, tho.
Exactly. But its was such a great film. Too bad everything in it SUCKS HARD
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:16 pm
by epilogue
I'll never forgive them for the JLo snub.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:20 pm
by VinylGuy
durdencommatyler wrote:I'll never forgive them for the JLo snub.
Oh fuck i forgot! Yeah wtf...she should have been there.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:27 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I’m a big fan of Hustlers but J Lo doesn’t deserve a nom. She’s not even the best performance in that movie.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:29 pm
by VinylGuy
Both her and Constance Wu should be there.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:32 pm
by LoathedVermin72
They were both good but nah
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:37 pm
by VinylGuy
You are an Oscar voter i guess.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:42 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Correct
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Yeah, makes sense.
I imagine those guys have the same explanation for everything.
" Ford vs Ferrari best director or script? nah"
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:47 pm
by SunKing
You all are aware that the Best Picture category has double the nominees of Best Director, correct? Half of the Best Picture noms, by award definition, will not get a Best Director nod.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:48 pm
by VinylGuy
SunKing wrote:You all are aware that the Best Picture category has double the nominees of Best Director, correct? Half of the Best Picture noms, by award definition, will not get a Best Director nod.
yeah, but script? cast? photography? at least editing??
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon January 13, 2020 6:52 pm
by SunKing
VinylGuy wrote:SunKing wrote:You all are aware that the Best Picture category has double the nominees of Best Director, correct? Half of the Best Picture noms, by award definition, will not get a Best Director nod.
yeah, but script? cast? photography? at least editing??
I haven't seen FvF yet so I can't comment on those things. I was more responding to this:
So a film gets a best film nod but it’s director doesn’t.
and this:
It was one of the best films, but all the actors sucked. The script sucked. And the director sucked. Wonderful film, tho.
Don't think you can conclude that when the BP field is expanded. Seems more like the voters thought it was a fringe inclusion, good enough to merit inclusion in the larger, overall category but not especially strong in any of the specific fields of acting/directing/what have you. Again, haven't seen the film so I can't comment on it specifically--I hear good things!--but it's not a contradiction or an absurdity for a movie to get a BP nom and nothing else.