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Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 1:07 am
by Strat
I absolutely love Will Patton's voice. You know the guy:

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I could listen to him all day maybe

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:12 pm
by Jorge
This day-of-release simultaneous HBO Max streaming thing has been a bad plan so far for Warners, right?

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:15 pm
by BurtReynolds
Jorge wrote:This day-of-release simultaneous HBO Max streaming thing has been a bad plan so far for Warners, right?
Is there anyway to know how much they're making on streaming?

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:20 pm
by Jorge
I dunno, but it's not only harming the movies' box office returns, I think it's also hurting their "cultural standing." Probably a bad way to phrase it but I mean like their overall cultural penetration. Their release feels much more fleeting, less important. VENOM 2 felt like a bigger deal than The Suicide Squad (even though there are obviously other factors at play there, like confusion about whether TSS was a reboot or a sequel or a Snyder-like director's cut or what)

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:23 pm
by BurtReynolds
Yeah I think getting that big opening week gross is still important.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:26 pm
by Jorge
Dune is being released a day early on HBO Max and I think that's going to kill its franchise hopes

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:28 pm
by Jorge
Yeah, AT&T is calling the shots and their main interest is in being the next Netflix. Don't know how that's going to work out in the long run

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:35 pm
by The Argonaut
That line-up of HBO and a bunch of crappy cable channels can't really go head to head against Disney

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:36 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:37 pm
by The Argonaut
tragabigzanda wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:That line-up of HBO and a bunch of crappy cable channels can't really go head to head against Disney
I disagree, but would be interested to hear your case
Disney owns more valuable stuff

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:40 pm
by BurtReynolds
But what does it mean for art?

Maybe killing the blockbuster is a good thing.

On the other hand, maybe reducing film to "content" is a disaster...

I will think on this.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:41 pm
by The Argonaut
tragabigzanda wrote:How are you defining value?
Money

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:45 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:I think that bemoaning the loss of the traditional theatrical release window is a bit like bemoaning the loss of the CD to the mp3. People want to graze on their content these days, sampling whatever they want when they want. Box office losses for Dune or whatever are pretty meaningless in the grand corporate scheme of things.
I think a more expedited theatrical-to-streaming window is the happy medium here, where home streaming is the replacement not of the theatrical distribution model, but of home media (sorry LV if you're reading this). I don't see any benefit for the day-of streaming model except set up theaters (and franchises) for failure

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:47 pm
by Jorge
The Argonaut wrote:That line-up of HBO and a bunch of crappy cable channels can't really go head to head against Disney
Yeah I don't really see it, WB is certainly big but it can't measure up to the mouse in terms of valuable IP

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 3:53 pm
by Jorge
Hey fuck you my question was good