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Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:01 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:28 pm
by VinylGuy
It kinda feels Warner shoot themselves in the foot with some releases...Dune for example...doesnt makes sense to release it the same day on streaming and theatres...give it a month and put it on HBO max. But the same day?? for a movie with that scope? its stupid.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:41 pm
by VinylGuy
If the box office is not good they wont make another one. How is that a good bussines choice?
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:45 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:48 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:49 pm
by VinylGuy
if IP are so fucking important, you are killing a potentially big one right now. They spent a lot of money trying to make an event film and they are killing it by releasing it on streaming the very same day. Again, do it, but leave it on the theatres and Imax alone for 20 days, one month.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:50 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:51 pm
by VinylGuy
and im on the fence on how good those streaming numbers are
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 4:58 pm
by VinylGuy
Again, i disagree. If you dont have the subscription numbers, it really doesnt make sense. The box office numbers are weaker and you can kill potentially huge franchises.
Also, you lost Nolan and seems Villeneve too. They fucked up when they thought they needed to be Netflix.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:23 pm
by Jorge
I don't think you guys are really disagreeing with each other, Trag's just talking about the long-term conglomerate business benefit and VG is talking about the film studio's cultural, artistic and financial standing (which is also what I was thinking about initially)
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:27 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:31 pm
by BurtReynolds
I'm sure they've crunched the numbers and decided it's more profitable to try to push their streaming service than film franchises, but then again bureaucratic corporate behemoths are often very stupid, so we'll see if they are right I guess. They may be acting very short-sightedly.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:35 pm
by Jorge
BurtReynolds wrote: but then again bureaucratic corporate behemoths are often very stupid, so we'll see if they are right I guess.
Yeah
HBO Max is still lagging behind Disney+, Amazon Prime, and Netflix in terms of subscriptions. I don't think they got as much juice from the day-of streaming release experiment as they were hoping, or at least that seems to be the common impression
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:36 pm
by Strat
The big movies seem to only stream for a few days anyway, no?
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sat October 16, 2021 5:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.