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Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:38 pm
by WtOB?
if i was in the band, particularly if i was matt, and ed didn't show up to chris' funeral, id want an explanation or id feel pretty weird towards ed. he not only attended johnny ramone's funeral but spoke at it so he can't have too much of an aversion to funerals. amsterdam is just a show, some things are more important. but i guess that's just my personal values.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:42 pm
by LetMeSleep
WtOB? wrote:if i was in the band, particularly if i was matt, and ed didn't show up to chris' funeral, id want an explanation or id feel pretty weird towards ed. he not only attended johnny ramone's funeral but spoke at it so he can't have too much of an aversion to funerals. amsterdam is just a show, some things are more important. but i guess that's just my personal values.
I wholeheartedly agree. However with a private jet Ed can set up for the shows, attend the funeral and play the Amsterdam show. Smart money would have been to postpone the first shows though.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:50 pm
by Birds in Hell
LetMeSleep wrote:WtOB? wrote:if i was in the band, particularly if i was matt, and ed didn't show up to chris' funeral, id want an explanation or id feel pretty weird towards ed. he not only attended johnny ramone's funeral but spoke at it so he can't have too much of an aversion to funerals. amsterdam is just a show, some things are more important. but i guess that's just my personal values.
I wholeheartedly agree. However with a private jet Ed can set up for the shows, attend the funeral and play the Amsterdam show. Smart money would have been to postpone the first shows though.
From what I saw on Chris's mother in law's bonkers Twitter, Jill already told Chris's daughter he won't be attending.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:52 pm
by doone
If that's true then I'm no longer a fan of Eddie Vedder. I don't care what his excuse is.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:23 am
by hlniv
doone wrote:If that's true then I'm no longer a fan of Eddie Vedder. I don't care what his excuse is.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:23 am
by stip
Please respect this thread as a place for the discussion, celebration, and grieving of the life and death of Chris Cornell.
RM schtick can go here
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:24 am
by daft twat
RM
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:24 am
by Bammer
OK...
I'll be honest I'm disappointed he's being buried in Hollywood and not in Seattle.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:24 am
by stip
Damn it. I forgot that pun nonsense got us off the funeral topic.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:25 am
by hlniv
stip wrote:Please respect this thread as a place for the discussion, celebration, and grieving of the life and death of Chris Cornell.
RM schtick can go here
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:27 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Much better.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:27 am
by hlniv
If EV doesn't go to the funeral, he will regret it the rest of his life. Nothing else matters. It's a show of respect for a man that was absolutely instrumental in helping him become who he is and someone who he shares life long mutual friends and professional relationships. It will be inexcusable for him not to go and pay his respects. I don't care how hard or uncomfortable it is.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:28 am
by LetMeSleep
I hope Ed does fly back for the funeral. He'd be alright to still play the show, I'm sure.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:32 am
by stip
hlniv wrote:If EV doesn't go to the funeral, he will regret it the rest of his life. Nothing else matters. It's a show of respect for a man that was absolutely instrumental in helping him become who he is and someone who he shares life long mutual friends and professional relationships. It will be inexcusable for him not to go and pay his respects. I don't care how hard or uncomfortable it is.
This has been posted a few times, but Eddie is not a sociopath. He understands how emotions work, and he understands basic human dignity. The circumstances surrounding death are complicated, they cause people to do irrational things, they open wounds, and everyone processes this in a different way. This is one of the last things in the world that strangers should assume they know enough about to judge.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:40 am
by hlniv
stip wrote:hlniv wrote:If EV doesn't go to the funeral, he will regret it the rest of his life. Nothing else matters. It's a show of respect for a man that was absolutely instrumental in helping him become who he is and someone who he shares life long mutual friends and professional relationships. It will be inexcusable for him not to go and pay his respects. I don't care how hard or uncomfortable it is.
This has been posted a few times, but Eddie is not a sociopath. He understands how emotions work, and he understands basic human dignity. The circumstances surrounding death are complicated, they cause people to do irrational things, they open wounds, and everyone processes this in a different way. This is one of the last things in the world that strangers should assume they know enough about to judge.
If he doesn't show up, he doesn't understand basic human dignity. I will definitely judge that.
You go to support the people you care about. To show them that you are there for them. I've been to awkward funerals. Faced the past and dealt with the present. It's not about your emotions, it's about others. And if some people don't want you there, there are others that do. So you go. And you face the reality of death and what it leaves behind.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:41 am
by LetMeSleep
Yep. You shut the fuck up and do what's right. Unlike what has happened here.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:43 am
by WtOB?
LetMeSleep wrote:Yep. You shut the fuck up and do what's right.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:45 am
by stip
these are very easy judgements to make about very complicated moments, made a world away by strangers who lack almost any relevant context beyond what they would do in the imaginary scenario created in their head that may have next to no connection to the actual circumstances surrounding the event. I'm not sure there's a 'right' response to this.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:48 am
by stip
Perhaps for Eddie Vedder, lead singer of pearl jam, grunge survivor, public icon. But for Eddie Vedder the human being, who knows.
Re: RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:49 am
by Jorge
Help me out here, is the operating theory now that there was some sort of falling out between EV + Cornell? Or that he doesn't get along with Cornell's wife? I missed that part