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Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Mon October 18, 2021 6:58 pm
by Jorge
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote: They've already recouped $75M in the foreign market, so they'll get their other $90M back between theatrical, Blu-Ray, and new subs.
FWIW tentpoles usually need to double their budget to start being profitable
:thumbsup: I doubt it'll do that well. What's the marketing budget on this thing?
I can see it easily reaching $330m in the box office.
Worldwide totally, piece of cake. Domestic (where they need it) it's less of a sure thing

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Mon October 18, 2021 7:14 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Mon October 18, 2021 7:53 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote: They've already recouped $75M in the foreign market, so they'll get their other $90M back between theatrical, Blu-Ray, and new subs.
FWIW tentpoles usually need to double their budget to start being profitable
:thumbsup: I doubt it'll do that well. What's the marketing budget on this thing?
I can see it easily reaching $330m in the box office.
Worldwide totally, piece of cake. Domestic (where they need it) it's less of a sure thing
Why is that important?
South American money doesn't count as much as American money trag.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:44 pm
by The Argonaut
Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve are obviously related and similar in a lot of ways. They don't make bad movies, but I also don't think they make great movies. I think it's more that their movies are great accomplishments. And not just on a technical level, even a storytelling level. But, perhaps because they are executed so well and so cleanly, the movies lack a certain vitality that keeps them from being great, maybe

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:47 pm
by epilogue
I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your policework there, Lou

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:48 pm
by tree_
that's from Fargo

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:48 pm
by epilogue
Yes

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:49 pm
by tree_
I just wanted you to know that I know

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:52 pm
by The Argonaut
good job, tree, proud of you

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:53 pm
by tree_
thank you

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 3:53 pm
by epilogue
Thank you

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 4:02 pm
by BurtReynolds
The Argonaut wrote:Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve are obviously related and similar in a lot of ways. They don't make bad movies, but I also don't think they make great movies. I think it's more that their movies are great accomplishments. And not just on a technical level, even a storytelling level. But, perhaps because they are executed so well and so cleanly, the movies lack a certain vitality that keeps them from being great, maybe
They are kinda representative of the best that can exist under the current iteration of Hollywood I think. They are filmmakers who make movies that appeal to corporate execs. This doesn't mean that they are bad or that they are sellouts, just that their movies are more likely to get made right now than people with other aesthetics. More so for Nolan than Villeneuve.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 11:39 pm
by VinylGuy
im fuckig dyying to see House Of Gucci.

Ridley Scott is the best director of the year.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu October 28, 2021 11:51 pm
by wease
VinylGuy wrote:im fuckig dyying to see House Of Gucci.

Ridley Scott is the best director of the year.
Yeah. That trailer looked fantastic.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Fri October 29, 2021 3:36 pm
by The Argonaut
BurtReynolds wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:Christopher Nolan and Denis Villeneuve are obviously related and similar in a lot of ways. They don't make bad movies, but I also don't think they make great movies. I think it's more that their movies are great accomplishments. And not just on a technical level, even a storytelling level. But, perhaps because they are executed so well and so cleanly, the movies lack a certain vitality that keeps them from being great, maybe
They are kinda representative of the best that can exist under the current iteration of Hollywood I think. They are filmmakers who make movies that appeal to corporate execs. This doesn't mean that they are bad or that they are sellouts, just that their movies are more likely to get made right now than people with other aesthetics. More so for Nolan than Villeneuve.
I don't think they're sellouts at all. I think they're making exactly the kind of movies they want to be making. I just think whatever little magic that makes something jump to another level is missing from their movies, whatever that means. It is true that there are only a handful of directors that seem to be given free reign to do whatever they'd like within the studio system. Nolan is one, Villeneuve is just about one. I guess Paul Thomas Anderson and Wes Anderson are, too, on another side of the spectrum.
The trend of shoving talented up-and-coming or too-long-neglected indie directors into the Marvel box or the Star Wars box is often the case. Taika Waititi is pretty much the only one who has made that work. Most others come out looking worse for wear. It elevates seasoned TV directors, like the Russo brothers, but it seems to not be great for most anyone else. Patty Jenkins is making it work, I guess.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Fri October 29, 2021 3:40 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Fri October 29, 2021 6:59 pm
by epilogue
Reading Dune Messiah now and it's remarkable how similar Dune and Dune Messiah are to The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. I wonder if Lucasfilm was consciously inspired by the themes/narrative structure of those Dune books. Obviously there are aesthetic differences. I'm really talking about theme and structure. Specifically the sort of (very minor spoiler for Dune Messiah)
Spoiler: show
subversion of expectations as regarding the protagonist/hero worship.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Mon November 08, 2021 1:40 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's weird that, of all the future dystopian movies, Demolition Man came closest to accurately predicting the future.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Mon November 08, 2021 9:26 pm
by Ello Sailor
BurtReynolds wrote:It's weird that, of all the future dystopian movies, Demolition Man came closest to accurately predicting the future.
You can keep your three seashells, though.

Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

Posted: Thu November 11, 2021 4:38 pm
by Farmer John
What's the over/under for the amount of times the word "Gucci" will be said in House of Gucci?

I'm thinking it's a lot. Possible drinking game there.