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Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 5:27 am
by BurtReynolds
It was made right after There Will Be Blood, right? I felt like there was a bit of a feeling of disappointment (in comparison) at the time. But it's my favorite of his.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 5:44 am
by The Argonaut
Kind of like how Jackie Brown came out after Pulp Fiction so people kind of slag it even though it's actually probably Tarantino's best movie
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 12:56 pm
by Jorge
Jorge wrote:PTA has had three Best Picture nominations: There Will Be Blood, Phantom Thread, and Licorice Pizza. Kind of blows my mind that The Master didn't score one, it's probably my favorite of the three
I mean, of the four
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 1:48 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Jorge wrote:Jorge wrote:PTA has had three Best Picture nominations: There Will Be Blood, Phantom Thread, and Licorice Pizza. Kind of blows my mind that The Master didn't score one, it's probably my favorite of the three
I mean, of the four
Thank you!
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 5:54 pm
by Mickey
Mickey wrote:Wasn't the story that The Master's obvious parallels to scientology did it in at the awards shows?
I refuse to be bottom paged on this.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 5:55 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Mickey wrote:Mickey wrote:Wasn't the story that The Master's obvious parallels to scientology did it in at the awards shows?
I refuse to be bottom paged on this.
That was your fault.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 6:49 pm
by Malloy
Mickey wrote:Mickey wrote:Wasn't the story that The Master's obvious parallels to scientology did it in at the awards shows?
I refuse to be bottom paged on this.
i also remember hearing it created difficulties in securing funding
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 8:15 pm
by Jorge
It got a huge amount of nominations and some wins. I don't think Scientology is actually that powerful in Hollywood.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 8:43 pm
by epilogue
Yeah, that seems more like a certain media outlet narrative than a truth. But I do remember hearing that around at the time, yes.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 8:57 pm
by Mickey
Yeah I mean obviously I have no idea, I just remember that being the narrative. It is slightly insane to look at which films got a best picture nod that year instead of The Master (Silver Linings Playbook!). I wouldn't say it got a huge amount of nominations--it was up for three Academy Awards, all for acting.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 9:00 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
It’s like they didn’t even care Jesse Plemons was in it.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:03 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:Yeah I mean obviously I have no idea, I just remember that being the narrative. It is slightly insane to look at which films got a best picture nod that year instead of The Master (Silver Linings Playbook!). I wouldn't say it got a huge amount of nominations--it was up for three Academy Awards, all for acting.
I fucking LOVE Silver Linings Playbook.... but even I would have nominated The Master over it.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:12 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:14 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:I’m Swiss on Silver Linings because I swear I forgot the plot as soon as the credits rolled. Something about Bradley Cooper in a poncho?
And J-Law in workout attire.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:14 pm
by Jorge
Mickey wrote:Yeah I mean obviously I have no idea, I just remember that being the narrative. It is slightly insane to look at which films got a best picture nod that year instead of The Master (Silver Linings Playbook!). I wouldn't say it got a huge amount of nominations--it was up for three Academy Awards, all for acting.
I meant beyond the Oscars, it was a widely celebrated movie. I think if the Scientology-influence narrative was correct it would've gotten shut out completely is all
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:15 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tragabigzanda wrote:I’m Swiss on Silver Linings because I swear I forgot the plot as soon as the credits rolled. Something about Bradley Cooper in a poncho?
And dance!
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:17 pm
by epilogue
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I’m Swiss on Silver Linings because I swear I forgot the plot as soon as the credits rolled. Something about Bradley Cooper in a poncho?
And dance!
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:24 pm
by Mickey
Jorge wrote:Mickey wrote:Yeah I mean obviously I have no idea, I just remember that being the narrative. It is slightly insane to look at which films got a best picture nod that year instead of The Master (Silver Linings Playbook!). I wouldn't say it got a huge amount of nominations--it was up for three Academy Awards, all for acting.
I meant beyond the Oscars, it was a widely celebrated movie. I think if the Scientology-influence narrative was correct it would've gotten shut out completely is all
I think a highly lauded movie from a known auteur with an all-star cast getting shut out of Best Picture/Best Director is exactly what makes it so strange!
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:26 pm
by Jorge
Mickey wrote:Jorge wrote:Mickey wrote:Yeah I mean obviously I have no idea, I just remember that being the narrative. It is slightly insane to look at which films got a best picture nod that year instead of The Master (Silver Linings Playbook!). I wouldn't say it got a huge amount of nominations--it was up for three Academy Awards, all for acting.
I meant beyond the Oscars, it was a widely celebrated movie. I think if the Scientology-influence narrative was correct it would've gotten shut out completely is all
I think a highly lauded movie from a known auteur with an all-star cast getting shut out of Best Picture/Best Director is exactly what makes it so strange!
That's what I said!
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Thu February 17, 2022 10:42 pm
by Mickey
The most likely story is that Oscar voters are by and large dullards who love pablum, and that this as much the case in 2013 as ever. The Master is more solidly in the realm of art house than the BP nominees (SLP, Argo, Life of Pi, Lincoln, Les Mis), and it was eventually Argo, of all films, that won. It's also a slightly wackier film than There Will Be Blood. So that's probably all it was. But fwiw my wife worked in Hollywood from 2002-2010, and she said that scientology was a pretty sensitive subject--she got dragged into an office when she was working at MTV films (I think?) and told to stop making jokes about it in like a "you are putting your career at risk" kind of way. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that a chunk of voters could have blocked it from the BP nomination.