Red Mosquito

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Maybe your friend roofied her.

Which movie is that from? Is that Boogie Nights?

da hangover

I've never seen it. Is Heather Graham in that movie?

yes

One more reason not to see it, I guess.

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Maybe your friend roofied her.

Which movie is that from? Is that Boogie Nights?

da hangover

I've never seen it. Is Heather Graham in that movie?

yes

One more reason not to see it, I guess.

it’s good

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Maybe your friend roofied her.

Which movie is that from? Is that Boogie Nights?

da hangover

I've never seen it. Is Heather Graham in that movie?

yes

One more reason not to see it, I guess.

it’s good

Is it, though?

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Maybe your friend roofied her.

Which movie is that from? Is that Boogie Nights?

da hangover

I've never seen it. Is Heather Graham in that movie?

yes

One more reason not to see it, I guess.

it’s good

Is it, though?

yeah

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

doug rr wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

doug rr wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I feel like you're the first person to get it, Ruddo. I owe you dinner and a drink of your choice.

on a side note, joe. did you read the story in NY mag about your Prune chefs and their attempt at getting the spotted pig?

I did not. That would have been awesome. What fell through?

sexual harassment and good 'ol ken friedman..look it up, i think it may have just come out today

Damn, man. That's a complicated story. I can totally see both sides of it. I see what Hamilton means about wanting to take over and change the culture but I also understand the POV that she was capitalizing on pain and teaming with a known offender.

Either way, if she can't oust Friedman all together, I'm glad she's severing ties. But a Spotted Pig owned/operated by Gabrielle Hamilton and Ashley Merriman would have been fucking fantastic.

I have to admit it's difficult for me to have a lot of compassion for her. I can appreciate that she was in over her head, and that she had more experienced professionals (like attorneys and the other people who were trying to set her up out in CA) giving her bad advice to tough it out. But I think both the length of time and sheer volume of inappropriate behavior that she allowed to happen outweighs her "victim by lack of understanding" by a fair margin. At a certain point her conscience should have taken over, and it seems clear that she repeatedly put her desire for success and creative autonomy ahead of the well-being of her employees.

doug rr wrote:i think you guys are talking about april bloomfield, right? not the ladies from prune and their effort to take the place from ken

durdencommatyler wrote:

doug rr wrote:i think you guys are talking about april bloomfield, right? not the ladies from prune and their effort to take the place from ken

I think Trag might be. But I'm definitely talking about Hamilton (from Prune). My only issue (based on what I've read, which admittedly isn't much, in the last half an hour or whatever) is that she aligned herself with Friedman at all. But I also understand he point of view, that she thought she could clean it up and turn it into something else. I'm just saying that I see why former employees like the one quoted in the NYT article might feel betrayed by her and dubious.

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

doug rr wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

doug rr wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I feel like you're the first person to get it, Ruddo. I owe you dinner and a drink of your choice.

on a side note, joe. did you read the story in NY mag about your Prune chefs and their attempt at getting the spotted pig?

I did not. That would have been awesome. What fell through?

sexual harassment and good 'ol ken friedman..look it up, i think it may have just come out today

Damn, man. That's a complicated story. I can totally see both sides of it. I see what Hamilton means about wanting to take over and change the culture but I also understand the POV that she was capitalizing on pain and teaming with a known offender.

Either way, if she can't oust Friedman all together, I'm glad she's severing ties. But a Spotted Pig owned/operated by Gabrielle Hamilton and Ashley Merriman would have been fucking fantastic.

I have to admit it's difficult for me to have a lot of compassion for her. I can appreciate that she was in over her head, and that she had more experienced professionals (like attorneys and the other people who were trying to set her up out in CA) giving her bad advice to tough it out. But I think both the length of time and sheer volume of inappropriate behavior that she allowed to happen outweighs her "victim by lack of understanding" by a fair margin. At a certain point her conscience should have taken over, and it seems clear that she repeatedly put her desire for success and creative autonomy ahead of the well-being of her employees.

I guess... I'm confused. Didn't she take over at the end of June? And she left in early September when it became clear that she wasn't going to be able to turn it around. And I'm not aware of the volume of inappropriate behavior that took place in those three months. I guess I need to read up on it more.

96583UP wrote:so where can one find a rape room now

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

doug rr wrote:i don't think friedman had anything to do with prune? joe?

doug rr wrote:

96583UP wrote:so where can one find a rape room now

the applebees on haggerty

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:then wtf is dime talking about? am i crazy? it sounds like he read the Spotted Pig article, and somehow attached Prune to it?