Just pretend you're a narcopath and they might be more relatable.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 6:17 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:what’s the point.
Exactly how I feel about Succession. So glad we agree bro!
Agree about succession. Bunch of assholes I don’t want to watch.
I wasn't talking specifically about Succession but yeah, that show gets that facile "you are only allowed to care about good and moral characters" take too.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 6:22 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
You have so much anger inside you.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 6:28 pm
by spike
Jorge wrote:This applies to movies and to TV.
One observation I'm sick of hearing, and that people seem to think they're hot shit for making, is "durr, you’re not supposed to relate to [X character]! They’re not a good person! You missed the point if you relate to them!"
It's like fuck man. If they were well written, of course I related to them. Characters should be compelling, and good writing makes us care for what happens to them and connect with their humanity regardless of their specific circumstances. Otherwise what’s the point.
The Dahmer series on Netflix is a great example. Of course he was horrible and totally creepy, but it was so well done, they actually made him relatable at moments. And that doesn’t make the viewer a serial killer.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 7:00 pm
by BurtReynolds
Jorge wrote:This applies to movies and to TV.
One observation I'm sick of hearing, and that people seem to think they're hot shit for making, is "durr, you’re not supposed to relate to [X character]! They’re not a good person! You missed the point if you relate to them!"
It's like fuck man. If they were well written, of course I related to them. Characters should be compelling, and good writing makes us care for what happens to them and connect with their humanity regardless of their specific circumstances. Otherwise what’s the point.
"You missed the point" is so pompous. Most times there are multiple interpretations, and usually the artist isn't even trying to make the point these idiots want it to be about.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 10:08 pm
by Ello Sailor
"These idiots" lmfao righto bud
Jorge wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:The world's shittiest Twilight zone episode mixed with a shitty romance novel God this sucked.
I'm often surprised by just how bad your tastes are. Like you miss a LOT
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 10:25 pm
by BurtReynolds
righto bud
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 10:28 pm
by JuanHamm
BurtReynolds wrote:righto bud
They hate you because they ain't you
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 16, 2023 11:14 pm
by Ello Sailor
No, it's because he's anus.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Fri April 21, 2023 9:50 pm
by Malloy
Jorge wrote:This applies to movies and to TV.
One observation I'm sick of hearing, and that people seem to think they're hot shit for making, is "durr, you’re not supposed to relate to [X character]! They’re not a good person! You missed the point if you relate to them!"
It's like fuck man. If they were well written, of course I related to them. Characters should be compelling, and good writing makes us care for what happens to them and connect with their humanity regardless of their specific circumstances. Otherwise what’s the point.
recoil at the reduction of film art in particular, but narrative art in general, to exclusively a medium in which to delivery character. this fetishisation narrows the possibilities of the form, and is in most cases just a reflection of our particular historical juncture -- the individual in its atomised ascendancy
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Fri April 21, 2023 9:52 pm
by Malloy
Ello Sailor wrote:
Malloy wrote:i smiled the whole way through the barbie trailer. think greta gerwig has shown herself to be at a minimum a capable, but often clever director
This is absolutely insane to me. Did we watch the same trailer? The one with the "beach you off" gag that wasn't funny the first time and seemed to go on forever?
it takes all kinds to make a world, sailor
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Fri April 21, 2023 9:55 pm
by Malloy
but, j, i agree that this kind of moralism that pervades viewing and "interpreting" art is no good
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Fri April 21, 2023 10:10 pm
by Ello Sailor
Malloy wrote:
Ello Sailor wrote:
Malloy wrote:i smiled the whole way through the barbie trailer. think greta gerwig has shown herself to be at a minimum a capable, but often clever director
This is absolutely insane to me. Did we watch the same trailer? The one with the "beach you off" gag that wasn't funny the first time and seemed to go on forever?
it takes all kinds to make a world, sailor
I'm sailing right past this beach in particular, bro. I can't do it.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Sun April 23, 2023 5:30 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I like Jay Baruchel.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 2:09 pm
by tree_
Seems like Beau is Afraid is similar to Synechdoche, New York. A lot to read into and unravel, but not necessarily entertaining. Looking forward to seeing it.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 2:40 pm
by Jorge
That sounds great. I love Synechdoche NY and I do actually find it "entertaining," though we may be defining that differently
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 2:46 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:That sounds great. I love Synechdoche NY and I do actually find it "entertaining," though we may be defining that differently
Yeah, I agree and also loved NY. I guess by "not necessarily entertaining" I mean my wife will hate it.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 3:22 pm
by tree_
Enjoying hearing Ari discuss where he's coming from. I think this could be very helpful.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 3:27 pm
by tree_
The more I hear about it, I'm actually quite afraid my anxiety will be triggered by this movie and give me a full on panic attack. Sounds like a true horror movie for me.
Re: Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Mon April 24, 2023 3:31 pm
by The Argonaut
Synecdoche and I'm Thinking of Ending Things are the closest parallels, but they only make Beau look worse by comparison. Beau is shallow where they are deep.
Go see the movie, guys. I want to say negative things about it without feeling like I'm influencing you (I know you all hold me in very high esteem and put a lot of stock in my opinion of things)