Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:I did not like this episode either. Mrs. Trag really did; she says she liked that there was no clear "right or wrong" person in the story; there was no 100% true account of right vs. wrong...

But I was bored. Seemed like a very elementary exploration of a narrative that has been in the news a bit lately. I feel like Lena thought she was being more provocative than she really was.

I thought it was brilliant. And to have Hanna realize a lot of things until the end...it pushes her character into some truth.
Also the final shot with the faceless women going to the building was good.

Yea, Mrs Trag liked that shot too. Meh. Pretty obvious bit of symbolism, I think.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Mecca wrote:i felt like that episode ended too early. felt like an outline of an idea

Totally.

VinylGuy wrote:Episode 3 was just brilliant. Maybe one of the best episodes from the whole series.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Spoiler: show

Hanna´s pregnant? I didnt see that one coming....also, poor Ray...i think he knows his relationship with Marnie is doomed.

tragabigzanda wrote:Shitty episode. All these characters have gone off the rails.

Spoiler: show

My wife was actually very excited that Hannah got pregnant. She was having a really hard to time with Hannah's (and others) sex throughout the entire series (and especially the surfing instructor episode) – portrayed as this wild adventure – and the irresponsibility of not talking about protection or possible repercussions, and what kind of message that sends younger girls watching the show. Not that it's the show's responsibility to give safe sex talks, but if you're going to bolster yourself into the feminist territory that the show does, you need to talk about everything, and I'm glad they are addressing this. Curious to see how they spin it.

bodysnatcher wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Shitty episode. All these characters have gone off the rails.

Ray was the only beacon in this episode.

Spoiler: show

My wife was actually very excited that Hannah got pregnant. She was having a really hard to time with Hannah's (and others) sex throughout the entire series (and especially the surfing instructor episode) – portrayed as this wild adventure – and the irresponsibility of not talking about protection or possible repercussions, and what kind of message that sends younger girls watching the show. Not that it's the show's responsibility to give safe sex talks, but if you're going to bolster yourself into the feminist territory that the show does, you need to talk about everything, and I'm glad they are addressing this. Curious to see how they spin it.

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I really enjoyed the pregnancy reveal. Great cameo and callback.

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Shitty episode. All these characters have gone off the rails.

Ray was the only beacon in this episode.

Spoiler: show

My wife was actually very excited that Hannah got pregnant. She was having a really hard to time with Hannah's (and others) sex throughout the entire series (and especially the surfing instructor episode) – portrayed as this wild adventure – and the irresponsibility of not talking about protection or possible repercussions, and what kind of message that sends younger girls watching the show. Not that it's the show's responsibility to give safe sex talks, but if you're going to bolster yourself into the feminist territory that the show does, you need to talk about everything, and I'm glad they are addressing this. Curious to see how they spin it.

yeah, it is interesting.

Also, those apartments are all shitty and very ugly.

bodysnatcher wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Shitty episode. All these characters have gone off the rails.

Ray was the only beacon in this episode.

Spoiler: show

My wife was actually very excited that Hannah got pregnant. She was having a really hard to time with Hannah's (and others) sex throughout the entire series (and especially the surfing instructor episode) – portrayed as this wild adventure – and the irresponsibility of not talking about protection or possible repercussions, and what kind of message that sends younger girls watching the show. Not that it's the show's responsibility to give safe sex talks, but if you're going to bolster yourself into the feminist territory that the show does, you need to talk about everything, and I'm glad they are addressing this. Curious to see how they spin it.

yeah, it is interesting.

Also, those apartments are all shitty and very ugly.

I still don't understand how they afford these places

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.